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CFE Pistol and Titegroup equivalent to Alliant Bullseye loads

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Post by Foundryratjim Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:33 pm

I am running out of Alliant BE powder and I cannot find any more. I am loading for a Model 52-2, 2.7 grs BE with 148 GR DE wadcutter, my Colt 45 load is 3.8 grs BE pushing a 200 gr cast semi wadcutter. I have a large quantity of CFE Pistol and Titegroup powder. Does any one have any actual loads they have used with either of these powders that I could use as a starting point to work up a load for each gun?


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Post by Boris_La Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:56 pm

Where are you located? I have an extra BE that I can trade for TG.

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Post by Foundryratjim Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:29 pm

South of Saginaw Michigan. The Titegroup is in an opened 8lb container.

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Post by Boris_La Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:49 pm

Sorry, too far away :-)

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Post by Schaumannk Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:07 pm

Use the Titegroup.  It is good powder.   Try roughly the same weight, and see how it goes.

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Post by 10sandxs Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:41 pm

4.0-4.5 gr tite group is a good start, in the45. might be able to go lighter depending on gun. I've shot a good deal of titegroup.

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Post by Schaumannk Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:55 am

10sandxs wrote:4.0-4.5 gr tite group is a good start, in the45. might be able to go lighter depending on gun.  I've shot a good deal of titegroup.
I would have agreed as far as this load if we were talking about a 185 grain lead bullet but with the 200g bullet I think best to start at 3.8 and work up from there.

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Post by Foundryratjim Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:50 pm

I loaded some rounds starting at 3.8 grains titegroup to 4.4 grains in 2 grain increments. The 4.2 and 4.4 were the most consistent velocity wise. I will load a bunch of each and do some accuracy testing.

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Post by Schaumannk Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:02 pm

Foundryratjim wrote:I loaded some rounds starting at 3.8 grains titegroup to 4.4 grains in 2 grain increments. The 4.2 and 4.4 were the most consistent velocity wise. I will load a bunch of each and do some accuracy testing.
Interesting as the powder burn rate charts list Bullseye and Titegroup as being right next to each other. 
    I got really good results with 4.2 over a 185g bullet.   In fact, I like Titegroup more than Bullseye.   It’s a cleaner powder.

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Post by Foundryratjim Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:40 pm

My current load of 3.8gr of BE gives velocity at 690 fps, temp. 18 degrees F.

4.2 gr. titegroup velocity is 773 fps , temp. 69 degrees F

4.4 gr. titegroup velocity is 830 fps, temp. 69 degrees F

Shot out of  a series 80 Mark 4 Gold Cup National Match.        200gr. swc from Brazos Precision

I wasn't shooting for accuracy but i would shoot at the first hole from the beginning of the string and I could definitely see the accuracy difference with these to loads. I didn't feel that much more recoil either. You are right titegroup is definitely cleaner.

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Post by Centerline Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:24 pm

My research indicated Titegroup and Bullseye are pretty much on par.

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