Audio recordings for practice. Was (John Dreyer's Bullseye Encyclopedia)
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Audio recordings for practice. Was (John Dreyer's Bullseye Encyclopedia)
On John's web page he has made available MP3 files with the range commands for timed and rapid.
Does anyone know how to shorten one of these files, it can be either one, so that the horn that sounds
for the start and stop is eliminated?
I have a basement turning target and would like to only have the visual cue for my 3 second dry fire drills.
Thanks!
JLK
Does anyone know how to shorten one of these files, it can be either one, so that the horn that sounds
for the start and stop is eliminated?
I have a basement turning target and would like to only have the visual cue for my 3 second dry fire drills.
Thanks!
JLK
JLK- Posts : 146
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 73
Location : NE Ohio
Re: Audio recordings for practice. Was (John Dreyer's Bullseye Encyclopedia)
You will need an mp3 editing program. I may have one that will work if you can post a link to the files you want edited.
AllAces- Posts : 745
Join date : 2011-08-30
Re: Audio recordings for practice. Was (John Dreyer's Bullseye Encyclopedia)
I have a number of audio range commands with and without horn. How much of the commands do you want? From the beginning?
"This will be the timed fire...."
Or "for your next string of timed fire with five rounds load..."
Or "Is the line ready.... the line is ready.... ready on the right.... ready on the left...ready on the firing line"
"This will be the timed fire...."
Or "for your next string of timed fire with five rounds load..."
Or "Is the line ready.... the line is ready.... ready on the right.... ready on the left...ready on the firing line"
Last edited by Joe Fobes on 10/10/2012, 5:03 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : added files)
Re: Audio recordings for practice. Was (John Dreyer's Bullseye Encyclopedia)
Joe,
The entire sequence from "This will be the timed fire...." would be great!
Thinking about it if you have both timed and rapid I'll save them both...never know when
I might have a 5 shot air pistol someday.
lol
JLK
The entire sequence from "This will be the timed fire...." would be great!
Thinking about it if you have both timed and rapid I'll save them both...never know when
I might have a 5 shot air pistol someday.
lol
JLK
JLK- Posts : 146
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 73
Location : NE Ohio
Re: Audio recordings for practice. Was (John Dreyer's Bullseye Encyclopedia)
I attached a recording to my last post, see if that will work for you.
I have a bunch of different recordings I made but they are saved in various locations on my computer. If this does not fit your needs I may have something else.
I have a bunch of different recordings I made but they are saved in various locations on my computer. If this does not fit your needs I may have something else.
Re: Audio recordings for practice. Was (John Dreyer's Bullseye Encyclopedia)
Joe,
That's really good!
Thank you very much.
JLK
That's really good!
Thank you very much.
JLK
JLK- Posts : 146
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 73
Location : NE Ohio
Re: Audio recordings for practice. Was (John Dreyer's Bullseye Encyclopedia)
You are very welcome! That is one of my earlier attempts that had a horn sound. I removed that just for you!
JLK- Posts : 146
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 73
Location : NE Ohio
Re: Audio recordings for practice. Was (John Dreyer's Bullseye Encyclopedia)
Joe can you post the recording with the horns also? The timing is perfect with 3 seconds between commands.
Steve B- Posts : 627
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Location : Elkhart, IN
Re: Audio recordings for practice. Was (John Dreyer's Bullseye Encyclopedia)
Added some additional files above, maybe I should make this a sticky?
Re: Audio recordings for practice. Was (John Dreyer's Bullseye Encyclopedia)
JLK can you share your turning target system? What design, how does it work? I have looked at the ones on Ed's page but have been too lazy to gather up the parts and build one!
Re: Audio recordings for practice. Was (John Dreyer's Bullseye Encyclopedia)
Joe,
I'll try to take some pix of it and post tomorrow. I shoot in a morning league on Thursdays so it could
be afternoon.
Anyway, I bought it from someone on the old BE List back in 1999. I am sorry but I don't remember his
name. I do remember he was from Colorado. He was trying to get interest going in a kit he was putting
out but had very few takers. It was very reasonably priced.
A week or two after his original posting I inquired about it. He had gotten -0- response and was really discourgaged. So discouraged he gave up on the project and sold me the assembled prototype for around $100.
The drawback was it required 110v at the firing line and an extension cord out to however far you put the
target mechanism which is very simple.
This was when I was living in Oklahoma. In the meantime we moved to Nebraska, Iowa and now Ohio. During this time I never belonged to a club that had 110 on the pistol range or I wasn't shooting bullseye at all.
(I'm sorry I'm rambling here)
I took very good care of the system although I never used it. It has selectable 3, 10 and 20 second target
exposure. It also had the range commands recorded that could be heard over a small speaker on the control box
or with earphones plugged in to a jack. Somehow over the years the memory for the commands has evaporated.
I did locate the little mic and record button inside the box but haven't been able to make it record yet.
Anyway...
I decided I'd set it up in the basement and use the 3 sec exposure to dry fire practice the first shot for sustained fire. I've only been at it for less than a week but can already tell a difference. Surprisingly it has also really, really helped my slow fires too. I have come to understand what Brian Zins was trying to teach us in the clinic
last year... "uninterrupted trigger pressure"...but quicker than I've ever been able to shoot before!
The timing of the range commands you posted the other day is perfect. When you say "Load" I push the start
button and the target turns 3 seconds after you say "ready on the line".
Once again, I'll try to post some pix tomorrow.
Thanks!
JLK
I'll try to take some pix of it and post tomorrow. I shoot in a morning league on Thursdays so it could
be afternoon.
Anyway, I bought it from someone on the old BE List back in 1999. I am sorry but I don't remember his
name. I do remember he was from Colorado. He was trying to get interest going in a kit he was putting
out but had very few takers. It was very reasonably priced.
A week or two after his original posting I inquired about it. He had gotten -0- response and was really discourgaged. So discouraged he gave up on the project and sold me the assembled prototype for around $100.
The drawback was it required 110v at the firing line and an extension cord out to however far you put the
target mechanism which is very simple.
This was when I was living in Oklahoma. In the meantime we moved to Nebraska, Iowa and now Ohio. During this time I never belonged to a club that had 110 on the pistol range or I wasn't shooting bullseye at all.
(I'm sorry I'm rambling here)
I took very good care of the system although I never used it. It has selectable 3, 10 and 20 second target
exposure. It also had the range commands recorded that could be heard over a small speaker on the control box
or with earphones plugged in to a jack. Somehow over the years the memory for the commands has evaporated.
I did locate the little mic and record button inside the box but haven't been able to make it record yet.
Anyway...
I decided I'd set it up in the basement and use the 3 sec exposure to dry fire practice the first shot for sustained fire. I've only been at it for less than a week but can already tell a difference. Surprisingly it has also really, really helped my slow fires too. I have come to understand what Brian Zins was trying to teach us in the clinic
last year... "uninterrupted trigger pressure"...but quicker than I've ever been able to shoot before!
The timing of the range commands you posted the other day is perfect. When you say "Load" I push the start
button and the target turns 3 seconds after you say "ready on the line".
Once again, I'll try to post some pix tomorrow.
Thanks!
JLK
JLK- Posts : 146
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 73
Location : NE Ohio
Re: Audio recordings for practice. Was (John Dreyer's Bullseye Encyclopedia)
Just up from dry firing and thought I'd add a couple things.
I think in the past, although I've had some success with getting the first shot
off when the target faced, I was trying to develop a "reflex" reaction. That is
there wasn't any real "process"... I was just reacting.
Now, when I can do these 3 second drills when I want as often as I want I can feel
I am developing a system and real trigger control.
I am remembering and trying to use the process Andy and Brian were teaching and it's starting
to feel really, really good.
I read something the other day I'd like to paraphrase. Someone expressed a fear of getting a poor shot
off when applying uninterrupted and aggressive trigger pressure as the gun was settling. What happens
if it goes off "before you're ready"? It was pointed out it wouldn't be any worse, and probably better, than
what you get when you stop and start the trigger pressure, overhold and finally just accept the poor shot and
fire.
Man...that had me written all over it.
I hope this helps me break thru those problems.
JLK
I think in the past, although I've had some success with getting the first shot
off when the target faced, I was trying to develop a "reflex" reaction. That is
there wasn't any real "process"... I was just reacting.
Now, when I can do these 3 second drills when I want as often as I want I can feel
I am developing a system and real trigger control.
I am remembering and trying to use the process Andy and Brian were teaching and it's starting
to feel really, really good.
I read something the other day I'd like to paraphrase. Someone expressed a fear of getting a poor shot
off when applying uninterrupted and aggressive trigger pressure as the gun was settling. What happens
if it goes off "before you're ready"? It was pointed out it wouldn't be any worse, and probably better, than
what you get when you stop and start the trigger pressure, overhold and finally just accept the poor shot and
fire.
Man...that had me written all over it.
I hope this helps me break thru those problems.
JLK
JLK- Posts : 146
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 73
Location : NE Ohio
Re: Audio recordings for practice. Was (John Dreyer's Bullseye Encyclopedia)
Excellent feedback, thank you. I used garage band on my Mac to make the audio. I have the ability to edit, shorten, lenghten and change voice tones and many other things I have not used yet. Yup the timing is exactly 3 seconds between commands.
A 110v turning system, that is something I never considered. But for the basement which is what I want it for, perfect! I have a computer program that can trigger a relay....... now I have some work to do!
There goes this weekend!
A 110v turning system, that is something I never considered. But for the basement which is what I want it for, perfect! I have a computer program that can trigger a relay....... now I have some work to do!
There goes this weekend!
Re: Audio recordings for practice. Was (John Dreyer's Bullseye Encyclopedia)
If you have 110 available, you might get some ideas from looking at the Rapid Fire bay system I have described at:
Arvada Rapid Fire Target Bay
It uses a solenoid available from Granger's.
Unfortunately, the 12V version I show on my pages uses a Saturn Wiper motor as its actuator and the motor is no longer available all over for <$20.00. And, I haven't come up with a newer version yet.
My controllers also relied on parts that became obsolete. I'm (v.e.r.y. . . s..l...o....w.....l......y.....) working on a newer one, but I don't have any time frame for its completion.
Take Care,
Ed Hall
Air Force Shooting Teams
Things of Interest to Bullseye (and International) Competitors
Arvada Rapid Fire Target Bay
It uses a solenoid available from Granger's.
Unfortunately, the 12V version I show on my pages uses a Saturn Wiper motor as its actuator and the motor is no longer available all over for <$20.00. And, I haven't come up with a newer version yet.
My controllers also relied on parts that became obsolete. I'm (v.e.r.y. . . s..l...o....w.....l......y.....) working on a newer one, but I don't have any time frame for its completion.
Take Care,
Ed Hall
Air Force Shooting Teams
Things of Interest to Bullseye (and International) Competitors
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