Marvel accuracy decline
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CR10X
Jon Eulette
Allen Barnett
10sandxs
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Marvel accuracy decline
I've had a marvel for well over a decade, close to two I think. When I was younger, I would ransom rest ut every year or two, just to make sure it was ok. I hadn't done it in probably four or fie. But it didn't seem like shots were going where they used to, so I thought it would be wise to test ammo. I was supprise to see average 10 shot groups (at 50 FEET) of .75 and larger with several different types and lots of ammo. I used to see those types of groups T 50 YARDS. Ive only got arround 35k rounds through it and rarely truely clean the barrel. Chamber yes, barrel no, so it might be time.
Any other thoughts on what would cause a decline in accuracy?
Any other thoughts on what would cause a decline in accuracy?
10sandxs- Posts : 972
Join date : 2016-01-29
Re: Marvel accuracy decline
What does the crown look like? It might have a ding in it, doesn't take much.
Allen Barnett- Posts : 523
Join date : 2012-10-22
Age : 68
Location : Central Missouri
Re: Marvel accuracy decline
Recrown it! I doubt the barrels worn out. A fresh crown most likely will solve the issue. Been there done that a few times.
Jon
Jon
Jon Eulette- Posts : 4399
Join date : 2013-04-15
Location : Southern Kalifornia
Re: Marvel accuracy decline
Well, that's easy enough... I'll give it a try... thanks
10sandxs- Posts : 972
Join date : 2016-01-29
Re: Marvel accuracy decline
Crown and carbon ring in the chamber are the first two areas to look for. But when testing, be sure to clean (chamber brush and pull though patch) between ammo types, it will make a big difference with some .22 ammo.
If it is a early model, be sure to closely examine the lower lug the guide rod screws into. There can sometimes be a stress crack or fracture that can cause some issues. Saturate the block with kroil or very light oil, wipe everything you can off, and set aside for a few minutes. If you come back and see a line of oil, then you will know.
CR
If it is a early model, be sure to closely examine the lower lug the guide rod screws into. There can sometimes be a stress crack or fracture that can cause some issues. Saturate the block with kroil or very light oil, wipe everything you can off, and set aside for a few minutes. If you come back and see a line of oil, then you will know.
CR
CR10X- Posts : 1777
Join date : 2011-06-17
Location : NC
Re: Marvel accuracy decline
Ignoring the first part of this video, and going right to crowning the barrel, is this what we need to do to crown a barrel? How can someone visually observe a barrel and find out if it's needed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b43odFm0mrI
Sorry if I'm not asking this right - until just now, I didn't even understand what crowning a barrel meant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b43odFm0mrI
Sorry if I'm not asking this right - until just now, I didn't even understand what crowning a barrel meant.
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
Join date : 2016-07-26
Age : 80
Location : South Florida, and India
Re: Marvel accuracy decline
The ptg or manson hand crowning tools work reasonably well but the right way is to center the barrel bore in a lathe and then cut the crown.
The manson tooling is superior to ptg IMHO
Even cutting a new crown on a new or fairly new barrel can have benefits in these days of CNC.
The manson tooling is superior to ptg IMHO
Even cutting a new crown on a new or fairly new barrel can have benefits in these days of CNC.
jglenn21- Posts : 2620
Join date : 2015-04-07
Age : 76
Location : monroe , ga
Re: Marvel accuracy decline
Another way is to clean of the oil and then lightly dust with any spray powder product, if there is a crack, that will show dark and wet against the bright white surrounding. I use this technique to find out where oil is leaking in engines when other visual methods are insufficient.CR10X wrote:Crown and carbon ring in the chamber are the first two areas to look for. But when testing, be sure to clean (chamber brush and pull though patch) between ammo types, it will make a big difference with some .22 ammo.
If it is a early model, be sure to closely examine the lower lug the guide rod screws into. There can sometimes be a stress crack or fracture that can cause some issues. Saturate the block with kroil or very light oil, wipe everything you can off, and set aside for a few minutes. If you come back and see a line of oil, then you will know.
CR
Aprilian- Posts : 987
Join date : 2016-05-13
Location : Minnesota
Re: Marvel accuracy decline
Greetings,
I was asked to re-barrel a Pardini 22lr a while back.
With a bore scope, the original barrel showed little rifling in the throat area.
The pistol was rather new, so I set up an Outer's Foul Out electronic cleaner to it.
The cleaning lights came on. After three hours of cleaning, the rifling reappeared!!!
Testing in my barrel fixture, the barrel shot sub X-ring at 50 yards.
Sorry to dispel a common myth, 22lr barrels can foul with Lead.
Cheers,
Dave
I was asked to re-barrel a Pardini 22lr a while back.
With a bore scope, the original barrel showed little rifling in the throat area.
The pistol was rather new, so I set up an Outer's Foul Out electronic cleaner to it.
The cleaning lights came on. After three hours of cleaning, the rifling reappeared!!!
Testing in my barrel fixture, the barrel shot sub X-ring at 50 yards.
Sorry to dispel a common myth, 22lr barrels can foul with Lead.
Cheers,
Dave
fc60- Posts : 1459
Join date : 2011-06-11
Location : South Prairie, WA 98385
Re: Marvel accuracy decline
love those Foul Outs... shame they discontinued them.
jglenn21- Posts : 2620
Join date : 2015-04-07
Age : 76
Location : monroe , ga
Re: Marvel accuracy decline
Maybe one of these would do the same?jglenn21 wrote:love those Foul Outs... shame they discontinued them.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?306630-Outers-Foul-out-kits-discontinued-Someone-on-here-make-their-our-or-similar
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
Join date : 2016-07-26
Age : 80
Location : South Florida, and India
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