Decided to buy a Pardini

by James Hensler 3/18/2019, 6:59 pm

So I called them today to place my order and we settled on a 6 inch SP for my 22. We also chose a 6 inch HP 32 conversion but they talked me into the 32 ACP instead of the SW Long! They said it just works better at 50 yards and is more accurate! I hope I didn’t screw up here!!!

by orpheoet 3/18/2019, 7:04 pm

Nope. I love mine. I have a .32 ACP conversion for my 5" SP

by robert84010 3/18/2019, 7:16 pm

Well, their 32 long would work just fine if they would just use faster twist barrels. It's proven to work at 50 yards.
Even the 32 acp has challenges because they use the same slow twist.
Congratulations on your purchase, I'm sure you will like it.

by Jwhelan939 3/18/2019, 7:23 pm

32 acp has been awesome. It's an adventure to reload for, but once you get it it's really fun to shoot. Enjoy!!!

by James Hensler 3/18/2019, 7:33 pm

Oh thank god!
Yes I will be buying the dies for my Dillon for it!
Any help on a recipe would be nice! I have a Chronograph and will fine tune the load from there

by Ray Dash 3/18/2019, 8:18 pm

Lucky, they are illegal assault weapons here in commy NY

by gregbenner 3/18/2019, 10:39 pm

Congrats! I’ve got both 32 conversions, love both. For me, it has been easier getting good results with the ACP v 32 long. Not a huge difference, but good cheap bullets are also easier to get. Plus, I find them easier to load. I like the coated TB bullets with 1.35 g of 310 for practice and the SL, 1.7 g for the LL

If you haven’t already, you might want to look at the 2 step powder thru die that Photo Escape sells, made for a 550. There are a couple threads here on them. Also, several threads on loads.

by James Hensler 3/19/2019, 5:03 am

Thanks a bunch

by James Hensler 3/19/2019, 8:33 am

When I go from the 22 to the 32 how bad is the dope change on the red dot?

by gregbenner 3/19/2019, 11:41 am

James Hensler wrote:When I go from the 22 to the 32 how bad is the dope change on the red dot?

I find it problematic. Both windage and elevation. I confuse easily under pressure of a match. Jon is making me dot sight mounts that fit on the front shroud, so a dedicated sight for each conversion. Others have noted they make the adjustments without issue, so probably depend on you. Some have mentioned that they get separate lowers.

by James Hensler 3/19/2019, 12:08 pm

Yeah I thought it would be an issue

by zanemoseley 3/19/2019, 12:17 pm

That's definitely an advantage of a GSP, totally separate uppers so you leave the dots on the upper.

by carykiteboarder 3/19/2019, 1:57 pm

James Hensler wrote:Yeah I thought it would be an issue

Personally, I don't find switching sight settings a problem at all. I have .32acp marks in red and .22LR marks in black. My recommendation would be to buy an Aimpoint Micro and mount it with a Kodiak Machine mount. This forum contains a LOT of info on mounting optics on the SP/HP and on reloading .32acp. SEARCH!
Glen

by Jon Math 3/19/2019, 2:15 pm

Ray Dash wrote:Lucky, they are illegal assault weapons here in commy NY

They do not have an exemption for target pistols? MA is funny about a lot of things, but to their credit they have a listing of target pistols that is pretty extensive. What makes a 5 round pistol illegal BTW?

by gregbenner 3/19/2019, 2:29 pm

Jon Math wrote:
Ray Dash wrote:Lucky, they are illegal assault weapons here in commy NY

They do not have an exemption for target pistols? MA is funny about a lot of things, but to their credit they have a listing of target pistols that is pretty extensive. What makes a 5 round pistol illegal BTW?

Yeah, California also has an “Olympic Exception List”.

I think the issue for some states is the magazine forward design. One of the troubles with trying to put a concept into a written law, often unintended results.

by Jon Math 3/19/2019, 2:45 pm

gregbenner wrote:
Jon Math wrote:
Ray Dash wrote:Lucky, they are illegal assault weapons here in commy NY

They do not have an exemption for target pistols? MA is funny about a lot of things, but to their credit they have a listing of target pistols that is pretty extensive. What makes a 5 round pistol illegal BTW?
Yeah, California also has an “Olympic Exception List”.

I think the issue for some states is the magazine forward design. One of the troubles with trying to put a concept into a written law, often unintended results.

I suspected that. In reality other than a bull pup configured firearm is there anything that does not chamber the round forward of the trigger?

by Ray Dash 3/19/2019, 4:22 pm

I have sent some emails off to the State leaders here asking if we can also have an exemption on Olympic style .22 pistols here and never heard back from any of them. Boggles my mind that they would even consider any .22 as an assault weapon.

by James Hensler 3/19/2019, 4:48 pm

It’s because a 556 is still .22

by dronning 3/19/2019, 5:03 pm

James Hensler wrote:It’s because a 556 is still .22

Yep with a simple bolt & magazine change you can shoot 22lr ammo in your AR. It won't be accurate because of the best twist rate for a 22lr is 1-16 and most AR 5.56/.223's are around 1-7.
- Dave

by weber1b 3/19/2019, 5:56 pm

To the commie politicians, any banned gun is a good gun.

by gregbenner 3/19/2019, 6:26 pm

I thought the 22 was the favorite caliber for assasins because it can be silenced so well? I think I read this on the Internet (lol).

by messenger 3/19/2019, 6:39 pm

gregbenner wrote:I thought the 22 was the favorite caliber for assasins because it can be silenced so well? I think I read this on the Internet (lol).

I thought it was because the bullet can't be traced.

Bill

by gregbenner 3/19/2019, 7:17 pm

My trusty internet source:lol!:

“
In the book "Vengeance: The True Story of an Israeli Counter-Terrorist Team" ( The movie Munich was based on the book) The former Mossad agent talks about why agents use a .22, it was mainly for sound...they were told always two shots and always to the head. It's a pretty good book, and a true story:

by mpolans 3/19/2019, 10:16 pm

robert84010 wrote:Well, their 32 long would work just fine if they would just use faster twist barrels. It's proven to work at 50 yards.
Even the 32 acp has challenges because they use the same slow twist.
Congratulations on your purchase, I'm sure you will like it.

.32acp works in the slow twist barrels because it's going faster. It's still not an ideal solution though, as the bores are still a bit oversized for .32acp since they just took a .32 long blank and ran a .32acp chamber reamer through it.

I like mine, after I got a scope mount so my scope wouldn't move under recoil.

by Dr.Don 3/19/2019, 11:03 pm

As far as scope adjustments when going from the 32 to 22, it depends upon the individual gun and conversion unit. I have seen people talk about having to adjust as much as 19 clicks when going between units. Maybe I was just fortunate, but the change needed when going from 22 to 32acp at 50 yds is just up 4 clicks and left 2 clicks on my rig. That is with a Matchdot II and using the T&B coated 64 grain bullet and 1.8 gr N310.

Of course if you mount a scope on each unit out on the shroud there are no adjustments. But that is weight out front that I don't want. You may not want it either with a 6" gun. There is also the potential issue of muzzle blast fogging the optics.

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