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Post by Sheriff1962 Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:59 am

Any suggestions to improve my rapid fire will be appreciated.

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Post by Jack H Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:31 am

Don't think.  Just see and let it happen
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Post by TonyH Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:45 am

USMC Pistol Team Workbook...start on page 1 and work through the drills as it states.
Here's the link to the modified version of the workbook: http://www.ssppl.org/PDFs/USMCPistolTeamWorkbook.pdf
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Post by farmboy Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:39 am

Assuming grip and position are correct. It is important to apply pressure to the trigger as soon as you begin to recover from recoil and to enter the black. The pressure should be constant until the gun goes off as sights  are being aligned arriving at the center of  black aiming area. It takes somewhat of a leap of faith to start with but your wanting the gun to fire when the sights are within the aiming area even if they are wobbling around - not the absolute center of the black bull but with in the aiming area.  concentrating on the gun going off when you are with in a bigger aiming area helps you mentally stay consistent with the trigger pull and not a start and stop hesitation. You will be able to refine with practice. 

When training if you find yourself late to apply pressure or hesitate on the trigger pressure as your moving to the center of the aiming area stop, put the gun down and restart so you train yourself  as to what the correct shot looks like and feels like.  Accept early shots as your starting out as part of the process.  Early shots typically are better than late shots from pressure applied late or a hesitant start and stop trigger pull.
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Post by adminbot1911 Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:24 am

I don't know how bad things are right now in rapid fire but if they're bad, I'd start with the mental chant "sights sights sights sights sights sights sights" with 5 gradually increasing pressure UNINTERRUPTED squeezes in 10 seconds.  Regardless of the amount of skill even the most wobbly novice shooter can keep it in the 8 ring if they are focusing on the sights and squeezing consistently through the course of fire.
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Post by PhotoEscape Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:48 am

IMHO - while SF is all about mental concentration, RF and TF is a reflex (definition - a reflected action or movement; the sum total of any particular automatic response mediated by the nervous system. A reflex is built into the nervous system and does not need the intervention of conscious thought to take effect.) shooting. Thus nothing will replace actual trigger time. Hence #1 - find indoor range with turning targets that allow for time settings, so you can set 10 or 20 seconds multiple face time session with 30 seconds edge time in between; #2 - get 10000-15000 rounds of dissent 22 LR ammo; and #3 - as suggested above by Jack H - turn your brain off, and let rounds fly;

Once you comfortable with 22, include 45 or other centerfire in the routine.
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Post by adminbot1911 Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:09 am

If I turn my brain off, my rounds really will fly.

I always have and suspect always will have to actively concentrate on proper sight picture.

Not thinking about anything else will come with trigger time, absolutely.
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Post by David R Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:37 am

I count in my head to ten.  I know when the targets are going to turn back. 
I know how much time I have.  I do count to 20 for Timed fire.

I Squeeze  the trigger.  This is the biggest thing for me.   I believe you have  your sights aligned and are yanking or jerking the trigger. Just have faith, hold the  sight picture and only think about squeezing the trigger so it does not move the gun. 

Relax, be ready, squeeze the first shot off, repeat.  

If I do not get the first shot off right, it can screw up the rest of the string.  I learned after a while to not let it bother me and make 4 good shots, forget about the first bad one.

Keep at it, you will get it.    

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Post by adminbot1911 Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:04 am

I don't recommend counting.  It distracts from what you should be paying attention to right now, which is holding your sights on target through multiple trigger pulls.  So you saved a round now, so what?  Did you get 4 good pulls?  Does that give you the confidence to do those pulls just as smoothly but just a little bit faster next time?

With practice you will get used to what 10 and 20 seconds feels like.
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