Camp perry and other 22 match info.
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Camp perry and other 22 match info.
Now I am hooked on bulleye 22 caliber shooting and want to get into it more. Its there a club like the ATA we have in trap shooting? Is there different classes to shoot in like Sr Vet competition class? Are you only limited to iron sights? Is there trigger weight limited on 22s? Were can I go to see them shoot and see a lot of vendors? I understand there are shoots at camp perry and the cardinal center. Both in Ohio. Thanks a bunch
smsnyder- Posts : 630
Join date : 2019-08-23
Location : Pittsburgh Pa
Re: Camp perry and other 22 match info.
There are "22 Only" full 2700 matches available at the National Matches. As for locally, I think it depends on the match director. I can no longer shoot a .45 because it irritates my right wrist, nerve problems. So for outdoor matches shot at 50 and 25 yards, I shoot a full 2700 match but with 22 only. I inform the match director during sign up, they will tell me I'm only eligible for awards on the first 900, but they let me shoot. For outdoor matches all at 25 yards, commonly 1800's in my area, and all indoor matches, I shoot a .22 and a .32 in centerfire. But yea, you can shoot "22 Only" just be sure to inform them when you sign up.
Rules for gun types, sights and trigger pull weights are the same as in the regular rule book.
Rules for gun types, sights and trigger pull weights are the same as in the regular rule book.
Mike38- Posts : 514
Join date : 2016-09-15
Age : 65
Location : Illinois
Re: Camp perry and other 22 match info.
What is an 1800 vs a 2700 match? At 68 and a new 22 caliber shooter what matches you suggest? How many rounds in each match? Red dot or irons?
smsnyder- Posts : 630
Join date : 2019-08-23
Location : Pittsburgh Pa
Re: Camp perry and other 22 match info.
A two gun 1800 is two 900's. A 180 shot match usually shot with .22 and CF guns.
A 900 is the following
Slow fire Match-Two slow fire targets
Nation Match Course-slow fire, Timed fire, Rapid Fire
Timed Fire Match-two timed fire targets
Rapid Fire Match-two rapid fire targets
A 2700 is three 900's .22, CF, and 45.
A three gun 1800 is three 600's, basically a 2700 without the National Match course.
Typically 1800's can either be indoor (shot at 50ft) or outdoor (shot at 25 and 50 yards). 2700's typically are outdoor matches.
In many matches you can shoot 22 only, and for the three gun matches you can shoot those with just a .22 and a 45. (45 doubles as a center fire gun). As far as Irons, you can shoot in the metallic division, but that is not nearly as popular as open.
A 900 is the following
Slow fire Match-Two slow fire targets
Nation Match Course-slow fire, Timed fire, Rapid Fire
Timed Fire Match-two timed fire targets
Rapid Fire Match-two rapid fire targets
A 2700 is three 900's .22, CF, and 45.
A three gun 1800 is three 600's, basically a 2700 without the National Match course.
Typically 1800's can either be indoor (shot at 50ft) or outdoor (shot at 25 and 50 yards). 2700's typically are outdoor matches.
In many matches you can shoot 22 only, and for the three gun matches you can shoot those with just a .22 and a 45. (45 doubles as a center fire gun). As far as Irons, you can shoot in the metallic division, but that is not nearly as popular as open.
chiz1180- Posts : 1507
Join date : 2019-05-29
Location : Ohio
Re: Camp perry and other 22 match info.
Nation Match Course-slow fire, Timed fire, Rapid Fire. I guess I am shooting the 900 match now indoors. Its at 50 feet with a 22 caliber. Do most people shoot iron sights in this match? Is there a red dot class?
smsnyder- Posts : 630
Join date : 2019-08-23
Location : Pittsburgh Pa
Re: Camp perry and other 22 match info.
Most people where I shoot use dots. I shoot both irons and dots,but more typically a dot. I have found the lighting in most indoor ranges to be lacking to shoot irons.
chiz1180- Posts : 1507
Join date : 2019-05-29
Location : Ohio
Re: Camp perry and other 22 match info.
Does camp perry have 900 22 caliber shoots? How about cardinal center?
smsnyder- Posts : 630
Join date : 2019-08-23
Location : Pittsburgh Pa
Re: Camp perry and other 22 match info.
Camp Perry is Nationals once a year, a bit more complicated than a basic match. The Cardinal Center has monthly 2700's in the outdoor season. You can participate for only the 22 900 or shoot the entire 2700 22 only. Cardinal also has a weeknight league during the outdoor season.
chiz1180- Posts : 1507
Join date : 2019-05-29
Location : Ohio
Re: Camp perry and other 22 match info.
You lived at Cardinal Center during your ATA days, just talk to Dane and he’ll fix you up!
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Re: Camp perry and other 22 match info.
smsnyder,
I would recommend that you start by reading through the Encyclopedia of Bullseye Pistol website. We have a link to this site on the front page of this forum, but I am posting it here for your convenience:
https://www.bullseyepistol.com/
As the name suggests, this site has a wealth of materials about the sport, including descriptions of matches, targets, distances, rules, ect.
The first three articles in the "Introductory Information" section will give you a good idea of how the matches are conducted.
In brief, you start by shooting 2 targets in slow fire - 10 shots in 10 minutes each at 50 yards. Due to relatively generous time limit, slow fire strings are fired one, carefully-aimed, shot at a time - you generally will put the pistol down after each shot, reset and take the next shot.
Then comes the National Match Course, which consists of 1 slow fire target - 10 shots; 1 timed fire target - 10 shots and 1 rapid fire target - 10 shots. Timed fire is shot in two strings of 5 shots each, with each string completed in 20 secs or less. Two five-shot strings are shot on a single target and scored. Rapid fire is the same, but with 10 secs being the time limit for a 5-shot string. Because of the short time limits, you don't have the luxury of putting the gun down and shoot the entire 5-shot string, while holding the gun up.
Then you shoot a Timed Fire Match - two timed fire targets with 10 shots on each target, fired in two 5-shot strings. Finally, you shoot a Rapid Fire Match - the same as Timed Fire, only using the shorter time intervals for each 5-shot string.
This is a 900 match, or, rather, tournament. It consists of 90 shots with the possible maximum score of 900.
The 900 match is generally fired using .22 calibers semi-auto pistols or revolvers. However, a match director may choose to run a center-fire 900 match.
An 1800 match consists of two 900 matches, one fired with a .22 caliber pistol and the second with a center-fire pistol (.32 caliber or larger), or a .45 caliber pistol.
The 2700 match is the most traditional match, consisting of three 900 matches fired with a .22 caliber pistol, a center-fire pistol and a .45 caliber pistol respectively. Many competitors choose to shoot both the center-fire match and the .45 match with a .45 caliber pistol - the rules allow for that.
A few years ago, NRA introduced a .22-only 2700 match where competitors may choose to shoot all 3 900 matches with a .22 caliber pistol. Such competitors are ranked and scored separately from the competitors shooting all calibers.
There is a classification system consisting of the following classes:
Marksman - average score of < 85% (less than 765 in a 900 match)
Sharpshooter - average score between 85% and 90% (from 765 to 809 in a 900 match)
Expert - average score between 90% and 95% (from 810 to 854 in a 900 match)
Master - average score between 95% and 97% (from 855 to 872 in a 900 match)
High Master - average score 97% or greater (873 or more in a 900 match)
I would recommend that you start by reading through the Encyclopedia of Bullseye Pistol website. We have a link to this site on the front page of this forum, but I am posting it here for your convenience:
https://www.bullseyepistol.com/
As the name suggests, this site has a wealth of materials about the sport, including descriptions of matches, targets, distances, rules, ect.
The first three articles in the "Introductory Information" section will give you a good idea of how the matches are conducted.
In brief, you start by shooting 2 targets in slow fire - 10 shots in 10 minutes each at 50 yards. Due to relatively generous time limit, slow fire strings are fired one, carefully-aimed, shot at a time - you generally will put the pistol down after each shot, reset and take the next shot.
Then comes the National Match Course, which consists of 1 slow fire target - 10 shots; 1 timed fire target - 10 shots and 1 rapid fire target - 10 shots. Timed fire is shot in two strings of 5 shots each, with each string completed in 20 secs or less. Two five-shot strings are shot on a single target and scored. Rapid fire is the same, but with 10 secs being the time limit for a 5-shot string. Because of the short time limits, you don't have the luxury of putting the gun down and shoot the entire 5-shot string, while holding the gun up.
Then you shoot a Timed Fire Match - two timed fire targets with 10 shots on each target, fired in two 5-shot strings. Finally, you shoot a Rapid Fire Match - the same as Timed Fire, only using the shorter time intervals for each 5-shot string.
This is a 900 match, or, rather, tournament. It consists of 90 shots with the possible maximum score of 900.
The 900 match is generally fired using .22 calibers semi-auto pistols or revolvers. However, a match director may choose to run a center-fire 900 match.
An 1800 match consists of two 900 matches, one fired with a .22 caliber pistol and the second with a center-fire pistol (.32 caliber or larger), or a .45 caliber pistol.
The 2700 match is the most traditional match, consisting of three 900 matches fired with a .22 caliber pistol, a center-fire pistol and a .45 caliber pistol respectively. Many competitors choose to shoot both the center-fire match and the .45 match with a .45 caliber pistol - the rules allow for that.
A few years ago, NRA introduced a .22-only 2700 match where competitors may choose to shoot all 3 900 matches with a .22 caliber pistol. Such competitors are ranked and scored separately from the competitors shooting all calibers.
There is a classification system consisting of the following classes:
Marksman - average score of < 85% (less than 765 in a 900 match)
Sharpshooter - average score between 85% and 90% (from 765 to 809 in a 900 match)
Expert - average score between 90% and 95% (from 810 to 854 in a 900 match)
Master - average score between 95% and 97% (from 855 to 872 in a 900 match)
High Master - average score 97% or greater (873 or more in a 900 match)
Oleg G- Posts : 609
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Re: Camp perry and other 22 match info.
Are you by chance in the East Texas area you can PM me if you like
xman- Posts : 497
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