Measuring recoil spring rate
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Measuring recoil spring rate
Anybody know of a simple way to tell the rate on all these recoil springs
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Eages- Posts : 21
Join date : 2012-06-15
Location : Madiganastan
Re: Measuring recoil spring rate
Put something running lengthwise through the spring. A dowel with a loop will work. Compress the spring against something by pulling the loop with a fishing scale. Measure the weight once you get to 2" or so. There is a guy that sells a tool for this on Ebay, but I made one pretty easily that works satisfactorily.
DeweyHales- Posts : 641
Join date : 2011-06-10
Location : North Carolina
Re: Measuring recoil spring rate
I picked up a Weston 20 Pound Spring and Hook Scale on amazon for $18. Then get a 5/16" x 8" wooden dowel, 2 fender washers, and a 6d finish nail.
Drill a hole in one end so a 6d finish nail will fit with a press fit. You want it to stay put. Drill a hole in the other end for the fish scale hook to fit through. Slip one fender washer onto the dowel so it rests next to the nail. Then from the face of fender washer mark a line at 1 7/8". Put spring onto dowel then place the second fender washer on the dowel. Now put dowel onto fish hook and and compress spring until until the washer reaches the dowel.
The scale I mentioned has an indicator so you will be able to tell what the spring weight it.
Drill a hole in one end so a 6d finish nail will fit with a press fit. You want it to stay put. Drill a hole in the other end for the fish scale hook to fit through. Slip one fender washer onto the dowel so it rests next to the nail. Then from the face of fender washer mark a line at 1 7/8". Put spring onto dowel then place the second fender washer on the dowel. Now put dowel onto fish hook and and compress spring until until the washer reaches the dowel.
The scale I mentioned has an indicator so you will be able to tell what the spring weight it.
Toz35m- Posts : 266
Join date : 2012-10-17
Location : PDX
Re: Measuring recoil spring rate
Thanks, I'll give it a try.
Eages- Posts : 21
Join date : 2012-06-15
Location : Madiganastan
Re: Measuring recoil spring rate
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Rob Kovach- Admin
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Age : 51
Location : Brooklyn, WI
Spring tester
Here is a simple Spring tester design that was suggested to me by RT of Oregon I made one and it works fine. It will give you the basic idea.
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Scott Carroll- Posts : 34
Join date : 2011-06-10
Location : Vermont
Re: Measuring recoil spring rate
Scott Carroll wrote:Here is a simple Spring tester design that was suggested to me by RT of Oregon I made one and it works fine. It will give you the basic idea.
Scott
Vermont
You clamp he square tube in a vice. Also with a different size rod and a second hole set in the tube you can load 22 springs.
Jack H- Posts : 2699
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 75
Location : Oregon
Re: Measuring recoil spring rate
Way cool. I'm going to fab up one that does recoil and mainsprings....it should make it easier to tune marvel conversions.
Rob Kovach- Admin
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Re: Measuring recoil spring rate
so it is pretty easy to load the spring and measure it with a scale.the question is at what compressed length do you measure the weight of the spring. I am asking about recoil springs here. but since someone brought up recoil springs what is the compressed height of them>
Fred T- Posts : 12
Join date : 2011-06-12
Re: Measuring recoil spring rate
For most springs (not just gun springs) spring rates are pretty constant until you get close to fully compressed and fully relaxed. I'll get back to you after I build my rig to confirm that is still true for these recoil springs.
Rob Kovach- Admin
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Re: Measuring recoil spring rate
the proper compressed length for a recoil spring is 1 7/8" to measure its rated weight.
You can take a known good or new spring and use it to calibrate your set up.
You can take a known good or new spring and use it to calibrate your set up.
Toz35m- Posts : 266
Join date : 2012-10-17
Location : PDX
Re: Measuring recoil spring rate
I thought it was 1 5/8". Anyway, my experience with a "fish scale" was not good- too inaccurate. I used a combo of dumbbell plates and bullets to compress the spring. Then I weighed the weights on a good scale.Toz35m wrote:the proper compressed length for a recoil spring is 1 7/8" to measure its rated weight.
You can take a known good or new spring and use it to calibrate your set up.
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davekp- Posts : 315
Join date : 2011-06-11
Re: Measuring recoil spring rate
Probably a bit more complicated than you were looking for, but I figured I'd put it out there.
http://www.realguns.com/Commentary/comar16.htm
Bill
http://www.realguns.com/Commentary/comar16.htm
Bill
bullseyebill- Posts : 16
Join date : 2012-03-31
Location : N. IL
Recoil Spring Tester
I use one made by a bullseye shooter in Colorado.
It works great.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/45-cal-Spring-Tester-/140916066564?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cf408904
It works great.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/45-cal-Spring-Tester-/140916066564?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cf408904
Art- Posts : 45
Join date : 2011-07-03
Re: Measuring recoil spring rate
Art wrote:I use one made by a bullseye shooter in Colorado.
It works great.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/45-cal-Spring-Tester-/140916066564?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cf408904
Thanks for the link - I just ordered one
farmboy- Posts : 295
Join date : 2012-10-04
Location : Wichita, KS
Re: Measuring recoil spring rate
http://www.ebay.com/itm/45-cal-Spring-Tester-/140916066564?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cf408904[/quote[/url]]Art wrote:I use one made by a bullseye shooter in Colorado.
It works great.
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What do you use for a scale with that tester.
djm026- Posts : 55
Join date : 2013-01-20
Age : 58
Location : Latrobe,Pa
Re: Measuring recoil spring rate
djm,
I use this spring scale:
http://www.amazon.com/Weston-Pound-Spring-Hook-Scale/dp/B001IHF6GC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1361547337&sr=8-2&keywords=weston+spring+scale
I got the scale from Steve Bathje - the guy that makes and sells the spring tester - you might contact him to see if he still has them.
Art
I use this spring scale:
http://www.amazon.com/Weston-Pound-Spring-Hook-Scale/dp/B001IHF6GC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1361547337&sr=8-2&keywords=weston+spring+scale
I got the scale from Steve Bathje - the guy that makes and sells the spring tester - you might contact him to see if he still has them.
Art
Art- Posts : 45
Join date : 2011-07-03
Re: Measuring recoil spring rate
Another simple method is to take a can and make a hole in the bottom, a little larger than the shaft of a phillips screwdriver. Place the spring on the screwdriver and then the screwdriver through the hole in the bottom of the can. Place the can on a scale and compress the spring using the screwdriver. Read the scale when the proper length is reached.
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