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Post by Boxturtle Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:35 am

Rock River uses a two-piece recoil guide rod in their Bullseye Wadcutter.  What are the advantages and disadvantages.

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Post by james r chapman Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:42 am

Easier to switch to a .22 conversion.
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Post by rich.tullo Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:29 am

When you are working on the gun making adjustments to the trigger or extractor they make life infinitely easier and there is less wear and tear on the bushing.
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Post by Boxturtle Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:20 am

Good Morning Jim,

Your response to my inquiry is most interesting, as I have been thinking about a 22 conversion for the past two days.  Would you tell me more about them, and why the two-piece guide rod makes the swap easier? 

My interest in a 22 conversions has two motivations.  1)  It is easier to transport one gun, especially across state lines.  2)  Familiarity with one gun is more readily maintained, as opposed to switching among two different guns. 

Thanks, Tom


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Post by Boxturtle Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:21 am

Good Morning Rich,

How does the two-piece rod make this possible?  I don't know how a gun with a two-piece rod is disassembled.  Can you describe the procedure for me?

Thank you, Tom

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Post by SteveT Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:10 pm

The two piece guide rod makes it possible to remove the slide from the frame as a complete unit. If you totally unscrew the two halves it will come apart similar to regular 1911, but if you unscrew the guide rod a few turns it will be loose enough to remove the slide but the spring will be captured and stay in place in the slide.
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Post by rich.tullo Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:14 pm

What he said, and you do not have the turn the bushing to re install the recoil spring.
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Post by james r chapman Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:56 pm

Several YouTube videos answer your questions.
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Post by zanemoseley Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:56 pm

For me it's a GI rod or nothing. I've had a couple 2pc rods and really don't like them. You can easily remove a 45 slide without shooting your rod across the range, if you can't you need practice.

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Post by james r chapman Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:03 pm

One piece work well with reamed tunnels
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Post by BE Mike Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:02 pm

It requires some technique, but a 1911 slide and all the parts can be taken off the frame with a standard spring guide. The whole assembly can be replaced on the frame, with some technique, too! I never saw the need for these one or two piece rods. I suppose that they do add a little weight which might dampen recoil a very small amount. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2clYg5RwQrw
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Post by Boxturtle Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:19 pm

james r chapman wrote:Several YouTube videos answer your questions.

After wading through several videos in which the presenter didn't know what he was talking about (a reason I don't like YouTube), I found this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIpPMFm5ubM

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Post by Allgoodhits Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:24 pm

Perhaps your findings are different, but as for me, the simplest, fastest disassembly and reassembly of a 1911 is with a Full Length One Piece Guide Rod. These are the rods with the small hole to insert a pin (bent paperclip) to capture the plug & spring.
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