1911 recoil path / grip question
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1911 recoil path / grip question
This may be a dumb question but I’ll ask anyway. At least I hope to be better educated.
When shooting my 1911, I think that I have a decent, strong grip, but I am getting the impression from reading and studying that I may not. When I shoot, the bullet torque cause the muzzle to twist to the left as it rises. I don’t lose my grip, but should my grip be such that the muzzle goes straight up and back a bit, rather than twist?
Apologies is this is shooting 101. I’m not a new shooter but I’m new and far from great when it comes to bullseye.
Thanks
Rod
When shooting my 1911, I think that I have a decent, strong grip, but I am getting the impression from reading and studying that I may not. When I shoot, the bullet torque cause the muzzle to twist to the left as it rises. I don’t lose my grip, but should my grip be such that the muzzle goes straight up and back a bit, rather than twist?
Apologies is this is shooting 101. I’m not a new shooter but I’m new and far from great when it comes to bullseye.
Thanks
Rod
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Re: 1911 recoil path / grip question
I would invite some left handed shooters to chime in, in case I'm full of it, but I think you'll find that the elbow and wrist have more to do with the up and left recoil than the rifling. I believe left handed shooters experience an up and right recoil action. You may be fighting a tough battle trying to get the gun to recoil vertically. You might be able to affect it by twisting your elbow to bend straight upward, but I recommend against this, to avoid potentially causing your elbow to be overextended, both from the recoil shock and the forced recovery.
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Ed Hall wrote: I believe left handed shooters experience an up and right recoil action.
Up and right for this lefty.
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Thank you both. I didn’t normally notice it much in the past but my eyeball on the front sight alignment and following the FS as the gun fires caused me to be more aware of it.
Guess it’s not something I’m doing wrong. I’ll put it out of my mind.
Guess it’s not something I’m doing wrong. I’ll put it out of my mind.
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DA/SA wrote:Ed Hall wrote: I believe left handed shooters experience an up and right recoil action.
Up and right for this lefty.
Same for this southpaw
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Up and left….”right”paw!
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Re: 1911 recoil path / grip question
fortunately for right handers, the twist is into the grip, whereas we lefty's it twists against the thumb, out of the grip.
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Doesn’t matter!james r chapman wrote:fortunately for right handers, the twist is into the grip, whereas we lefty's it twists against the thumb, out of the grip.
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Jon Eulette wrote:Doesn’t matter!james r chapman wrote:fortunately for right handers, the twist is into the grip, whereas we lefty's it twists against the thumb, out of the grip.
Jon
It’s a lefty excuse!
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Re: 1911 recoil path / grip question
Rod,
Grip gun, aim gun, shoot gun, shoot 10!
Fundamentals are fundamentals.
I’ve shot 2600+ both handed, it doesn’t matter.
Jon
Grip gun, aim gun, shoot gun, shoot 10!
Fundamentals are fundamentals.
I’ve shot 2600+ both handed, it doesn’t matter.
Jon
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Re: 1911 recoil path / grip question
You guy's let the barrel come up? Why? It just rolls left for Me. You need more spuds and gravy . Says the 350 lb blacksmith.
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Sitting nice and steaming hot beside a couple pork chops, several links of great home made pork/venison sausage, or a nice slab of ribeye.LenV wrote:You guy's let the barrel come up? Why? It just rolls left for Me. You need more spuds and gravy . Says the 350 lb blacksmith.
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Re: 1911 recoil path / grip question
How much does it matter where it goes on recoil rather than where the bullet goes and how consistently you get back to the center of your aiming area?
CR
CR
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Nary a bit, nor a little! Not at all, actually....
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Here, is this better? lolRodJ wrote:Now I’m corn-fused. Isn’t “up and left” for a RH shooter the same twist with respect to the thumb and palm side as an “up and right” for a south paw?? (Except that the ejection port ends up pointing UP for RH and DOWN for LH)Oh boy, this bullseye shooting thing is not intuitive!
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Re: 1911 recoil path / grip question
Personally I had better recoil management when my chin was buried in my shoulder. The recoil went straight back into my shoulder and the pistol didn't rise hardly at all, with no left or right torque.
I don't use it now, my neck is too stiff and I changed my stance to accommodate it.
Stan
I don't use it now, my neck is too stiff and I changed my stance to accommodate it.
Stan
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