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Post by chiz1180 Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:52 am

CMP released the latest editions of the rule books.

https://thecmp.org/cmp-2022-competition-rules-are-now-online/?fbclid=IwAR1QtgfkXr0hM40pV8uAKFDFL43hJuFiFxNl1SKYCHlEEwkfcHYJ9EemVok


Notable changes from a first glance, Service Revolver is now an EIC and is the President’s course of fire. Air matches also have their own rule book too.
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Post by james r chapman Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:38 am

Lots of explaining is going to be required!
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Post by chiz1180 Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:54 am

james r chapman wrote:Lots of explaining is going to be required!
Mostly because people won’t read the rules and will rely on 2nd or 3rd hand account of them.
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Post by james r chapman Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:05 pm

Not true!
The rules are long, with many changes and create many questions.
So the revolver EIC is now basically the NRA  ,but, allowing .45 and lead wadcutter bullets.
It’s also a 40 shot course!
Be careful about reading the EIC point rules without realizing they are specific to DISABLED shooters.

I’m betting the competitors will have a better understanding of the rules than the RSO’s and range personnel!
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Post by jglenn21 Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:28 pm

service revolver is any caliber from 9mm to 45acp.. pretty much any ammo...4LB TRIGGER pull(single action)  CMP 2022 Rule Books 1f601
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Post by chiz1180 Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:03 pm

james r chapman wrote:Not true!
The rules are long, with many changes and create many questions.
So the revolver EIC is now basically the NRA  ,but, allowing .45 and lead wadcutter bullets.
It’s also a 40 shot course!
Be careful about reading the EIC point rules without realizing they are specific to DISABLED shooters.

I’m betting the competitors will have a better understanding of the rules than the RSO’s and range personnel!
I have been to EIC matches were people wanted to shoot the match with improper equipment (bomar rib for service pistol, 22 with a dot, ect.). It has been my personal experience that the majority of competitors do not have a working knowledge of the rules.
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Post by RoyDean Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:57 pm

I'm sure that Jim knows plenty of competitors who are very knowledgeable about the Rules, but I also tend to agree with chiz1180 that there are loads who neither know nor care!

However, I must say that I don't really understand why the CMP have chosen to make the rules for Service Revolver quite a bit different from the NRA DR. I like the decision to open it to a wider variety of calibers and bullets (but only iron sights - unlike a Harry Reeves - my favourite), but to "KISS" for routine events (other than the Nationals, etc.) I would have thought that the NMC course of fire would be quite sufficient. Just sayin'.

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Post by tovaert Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:06 pm

No more 3.5# .45 trigger pull (Match pistol). All .45s are 4# now. Could catch a few unsuspecting folks, but not too tough to fix. 

Also, single shot only air pistols, and a full breech to muzzle "flag" is required. 

I have a Steyr LP 50 and I was told that it was legal for ISSF events if you use the single shot magazine. I think I'll ask the CMP about this one. Also not sure how I'm going to feed some orange line down the muzzle and have it turn right or left at the breech end.

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Post by james r chapman Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:24 pm

But wait!

There’s been some errors!

Hendo says “ My bad” and is working on revisions!
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Post by james r chapman Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:29 pm

Anybody have a revolver that isn’t 2 1/2 to 3# SA?

None of mine.
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Post by Bmitch996 Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:35 pm

james r chapman wrote:Anybody have a revolver that isn’t 2 1/2 to 3# SA?

None of mine.


Nor mine.  Might be kind of difficult to get up to 4 lb ?

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Post by Sa-tevp Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:39 pm

Bmitch996 wrote:
james r chapman wrote:Anybody have a revolver that isn’t 2 1/2 to 3# SA?

None of mine.


Nor mine.  Might be kind of difficult to get up to 4 lb ?

No way no how do I plan to bump my Colt OMS up to 4 lbs. Kinda wondering how to get a S&W M14 that high. J frame rebound springs? Two rebound springs?  scratch
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Post by james r chapman Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:50 pm

You get heavier trigger rebound springs from Wolfe
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Post by Robuc Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:09 pm

Are you allowed to replace springs?  

4.1.7 a)…”They must be factory manufactured with no external or internal modification made to the revolver as manufactured and sold by the factory of origin, except as authorized in this rule.”

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Post by Dcforman Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:24 pm

I believe the 4# rule for service revolver is an error. I'm sure that will be corrected shortly. The idea behind "service revolver" was to copy DR but open it up to basically any caliber/bullet style, making it easier for people to compete. 

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Post by chiz1180 Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:27 pm

Based on conversations in the FB groups 45cal revolvers need to have a 4lb single action trigger.
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Post by RoyDean Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:37 pm

OK, let's make the rules simpler, so that we can attract a wider spectrum of shooters. 

Hmmm, seems like so many sets of rules (laws) that get drafted by committee's, they start out with good intentions and then get so convoluted that they become impractical to follow, legislate or enforce. Ho hum.

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Post by james r chapman Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:41 pm

Robuc wrote:Are you allowed to replace springs?  

4.1.7 a)…”They must be factory manufactured with no external or internal modification made to the revolver as manufactured and sold by the factory of origin, except as authorized in this rule.”
uh, yeah. must be factory, or, factory equivalent.
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Post by james r chapman Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:43 pm

gonna like this rule!
4.4.3 Service Revolver Ammunition CMP Service Revolver competitors may fire any safe, single projectile ammunition
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Post by chiz1180 Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:03 pm

james r chapman wrote:gonna like this rule!
4.4.3 Service Revolver Ammunition CMP Service Revolver competitors may fire any safe, single projectile ammunition
HBWC!
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Post by james r chapman Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:46 pm

Update per CMP (Jim Henderson)

Just an update to this. 
The corrections have been addressed. 
Just so everyone is clear the rules will read;
CF Match Gun 1911s will be 3.5lbs regardless of caliber. .22 conversions are 2.5lbs. 
Service Revolvers regardless of caliber are 2.5lbs, except a .45 will be 4.0lbs.
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Post by Jon Eulette Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:52 pm

They screwed the pooch on the CF 3.5# stunt. Been shooting them like this for 80 years +-
Dumb dumb dumb
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Post by orpheoet Fri Jan 07, 2022 7:23 pm

Seems like I may need separate guns for CMP and NRA events…..
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Post by RoyDean Fri Jan 07, 2022 7:36 pm

Mystifying.....

When it comes to trigger weights, why on earth change to new weights which, particularly for revolvers, might be difficult or even impossible to easily achieve?

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Post by chiz1180 Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:32 pm

Just an idea, why not ask why the change was made?
If anyone has questions about any 2022 CMP Competitions Rulebooks, please contact the CMP Competitions Department at competitions@thecmp.org or [url=tel:4196352141](419) 635-2141[/url], ext. 714 or 729
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