Follow up shots in slowfire
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Follow up shots in slowfire
Per a side discussion on a different thread, here is my take on follow up shots in slowfire.
Multiple shots during Slowfire? In the right circumstances, yes. In someways this is a more “advanced” technique, but it is one that can make a big difference when correctly utilized.
First things first you need to be able to call your shots and call them well. If you call a X and it is a 8, and this sort of thing happens regularly work on that first.
To utilize this method, you need to always be ready for a follow up shot. Break your first shot, come right back on target for the next shot. Here is where good shot calling is essential, you break the first shot, know it is good, and you come right back to center and follow it up with a follow up shot. After your shots scope them, confirm call. On paper this is pretty simple, but it takes some time to utilize with confidence.
So when do you use this approach vs the single shot then scope? It depends. I am of the opinion that it makes sense to have this approach ready, and utilize it as needed. This also works well in challenging conditions, such as windy conditions, when you have a lull in the wind, utilize that window to your advantage. As John mentioned in another thread, this also works well if you are shooting really well, if the first shot is good and the follow up is right there, take it! More than once I have stacked follow up shots right on top of the first one.
I also use this technique if my conditioning is not quite up to task and it is a long match. The less time that I have to hold in slowfire keeps me from being completely tired in rapid. It helps me maximize results with the least effort.
All the above said, does this make sense for everyone? Nope. As mentioned earlier if you struggle accurately calling your shots, this approach doesn’t make sense. I am not claiming this is the best way to play the game, but it is a strategy that has worked out well for me.
Multiple shots during Slowfire? In the right circumstances, yes. In someways this is a more “advanced” technique, but it is one that can make a big difference when correctly utilized.
First things first you need to be able to call your shots and call them well. If you call a X and it is a 8, and this sort of thing happens regularly work on that first.
To utilize this method, you need to always be ready for a follow up shot. Break your first shot, come right back on target for the next shot. Here is where good shot calling is essential, you break the first shot, know it is good, and you come right back to center and follow it up with a follow up shot. After your shots scope them, confirm call. On paper this is pretty simple, but it takes some time to utilize with confidence.
So when do you use this approach vs the single shot then scope? It depends. I am of the opinion that it makes sense to have this approach ready, and utilize it as needed. This also works well in challenging conditions, such as windy conditions, when you have a lull in the wind, utilize that window to your advantage. As John mentioned in another thread, this also works well if you are shooting really well, if the first shot is good and the follow up is right there, take it! More than once I have stacked follow up shots right on top of the first one.
I also use this technique if my conditioning is not quite up to task and it is a long match. The less time that I have to hold in slowfire keeps me from being completely tired in rapid. It helps me maximize results with the least effort.
All the above said, does this make sense for everyone? Nope. As mentioned earlier if you struggle accurately calling your shots, this approach doesn’t make sense. I am not claiming this is the best way to play the game, but it is a strategy that has worked out well for me.
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Re: Follow up shots in slowfire
Break your first shot, come right back on target for the next shot.
Word.
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Re: Follow up shots in slowfire
John B has previously commented on this topic. He mentioned shooting more than one shot in SF
"when it felt right". I thoroughly agree with this process.
IF everything went as planned with that first shot; sight alignment, sight picture and trigger control,
then you may feel comfortable with one or more follow-up shoots as you would in TF.
Try it. You may find it works for you too.
Mike
"when it felt right". I thoroughly agree with this process.
IF everything went as planned with that first shot; sight alignment, sight picture and trigger control,
then you may feel comfortable with one or more follow-up shoots as you would in TF.
Try it. You may find it works for you too.
Mike
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Re: Follow up shots in slowfire
It’s a good technique in windy days. If you have to wait for lulls, shooting 2-3 shots in a lull is a way of getting a decent scores.
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Re: Follow up shots in slowfire
Years ago while at Perry we were subjected to sustained 25-30+mph crosswinds during SF. We had four full lines of shooters andWobbley wrote:It’s a good technique in windy days. If you have to wait for lulls, shooting 2-3 shots in a lull is a way of getting a decent scores.
I recall there being only an occasional shot at first.
Then, there was somewhat of a brief lull and it suddenly sounded like rapid fire. This wind-lull-wind-lull went on for the entire ten minutes.
That was a case of environmental NEED. To be better prepared for such instances, it would be beneficial if the shooters would
practice multiple shots during SF under more favorable conditions to reduce anxiety should that NEED arise.
Mike
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Re: Follow up shots in slowfire
Would like to point out that if you compare your group size between rapid fire and slow fire, you may see that you're better off with follow-up shots in slow fire.
Providing your shot calling is trustworthy.
Providing your shot calling is trustworthy.
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Re: Follow up shots in slowfire
Where does breath control come when shooting follow-up shots in slow fire?
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Re: Follow up shots in slowfire
No different from sustained fire.BE Mike wrote:Where does breath control come when shooting follow-up shots in slow fire?
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Re: Follow up shots in slowfire
I recall those times as well, and I will add that the firing often moved like a "wave" up the line. I recall that when I was on Range 4, one could anticipate a lull as it moved up the line from west to east, and prepare to fire accordingly. Sometimes, doubles and even triples were fired. It was a bit nerve-wracking waiting for those lulls to come.mbmshooter wrote:Years ago while at Perry we were subjected to sustained 25-30+mph crosswinds during SF. We had four full lines of shooters andWobbley wrote:It’s a good technique in windy days. If you have to wait for lulls, shooting 2-3 shots in a lull is a way of getting a decent scores.
I recall there being only an occasional shot at first.
Then, there was somewhat of a brief lull and it suddenly sounded like rapid fire. This wind-lull-wind-lull went on for the entire ten minutes.
That was a case of environmental NEED. To be better prepared for such instances, it would be beneficial if the shooters would
practice multiple shots during SF under more favorable conditions to reduce anxiety should that NEED arise.
Mike
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