Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
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Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
When a bullet is fired through a rifled barrel is all of it captured by the rifling like a bolt through a nut or does the bullet skip past part of it?
beeser- Posts : 1154
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Re: Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
If everything is right it should start turning as it contacts the rifling, but there is always a lag (physics) albeit ever so slight.
Possible problems that could change this:
Bullet diameter incorrect too big or too small
Leading edge of rifling too abrupt / bad chamber
Poorly done rifling
Over pressure - round too hot
...... I'm sure there are others
- Dave
Possible problems that could change this:
Bullet diameter incorrect too big or too small
Leading edge of rifling too abrupt / bad chamber
Poorly done rifling
Over pressure - round too hot
...... I'm sure there are others
- Dave
dronning- Posts : 2581
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Re: Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
A soft alloy lead bullet may skid.
243winxb- Posts : 344
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Re: Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
Are you asking about shooting LEAD bullets?
jell-dog- Posts : 18
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Re: Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
No, the question goes to any bullet. It's just to satisfy general curiosity.jell-dog wrote:Are you asking about shooting LEAD bullets?
beeser- Posts : 1154
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Re: Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
Bullet dia, velocity, weight and groove depth all contribute to stability.
james r chapman- Admin
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Re: Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
beeser wrote:No, the question goes to any bullet. It's just to satisfy general curiosity.
yes bolt threading thru nut
but really really fast !!!!!
guncheese- Posts : 75
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Re: Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
maybe a better analogy would be
a bar of material being fun thru a threading/forming die really really really fast
a bar of material being fun thru a threading/forming die really really really fast
guncheese- Posts : 75
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Re: Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
Actually, compared to a nut and bolt it is very very sloooow.
1 turn in 12 inches vs. say 1 turn in . 040 of an inch
1 turn in 12 inches vs. say 1 turn in . 040 of an inch
james r chapman- Admin
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Re: Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
A rotationally stable bullet will have a resistance to forced rotation. Many factors involved in the details.
Jack H- Posts : 2698
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Re: Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
james r chapman wrote:Actually, compared to a nut and bolt it is very very sloooow.
1 turn in 12 inches vs. say 1 turn in . 040 of an inch
well slow pitch but high speed
guncheese- Posts : 75
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Re: Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
Well yeah lol
james r chapman- Admin
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Re: Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
So, the bullet rotation is 60,000 rpms as it leaves the barrel based on a muzzle velocity of 1000 ft/sec and a 1:12 twist?
beeser- Posts : 1154
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Re: Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
I get 5000 rpm? or is my calculator off...
james r chapman- Admin
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Re: Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
MV X 720/Twist Rate = RPM
1000x60=60,000 rpm
1000x60=60,000 rpm
guncheese- Posts : 75
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Re: Bullet Kipping Past Rifling?
So, at 60,000 rev/min it seems to me that rotational stability is important?
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