Registered NRA matches

xman wrote:I know that registered matches are above approved matches. But dont registered matches have to follow NRA rules unless exceptions are made in the match program? I am speaking about rule #22 for allowing the use by competitors to use a .22lr for all courses but shoot for score only in the CF and .45 phases. I have come accross a series of registered matches that prohibit the use of .22 for all courses EXCEPT for juniors and nothing is said about the exception for juniors in the match program nor the exculsion of the use of .22 for open competitors shooting the courses with a .22. (I have been in contact with the match director via email) I for one cant/wont travel 5 hours for just 90 shots as I only have a .22. I would travel for 270 shots though. I thought the whole idea of rule #22 was to get more folks shooting in bulleye/precision pistol shoots, not prohibit them. Rule #22 says nothing about juniors only. I have been in touch with the NRA about this and the answer was as follows in blue type, why then the need for an official referee, jury and other registered match officials to interpet "the rules". They can make up there own rules then even when the match program says NRA rules will apply.

we do not require any location or sponsor to run or utilize all the rules in the NRA Precision Pistol Rulebook.  The Rulebook is a tool for the location running the matches......

CR10X wrote:Please take the time to read all the rules.  The NRA Conventional Pistol Rules specify what has to be done for Approved or Registered.  There are numerous matches and types of competition covered by the rule book.  The match has to provide a bulletin for review by the NRA to make sure the required items are covered.  The match also has options on which matches offer, open to what classifications, divisions, etc. etc. as long as those matches offered and conditions of the contest are consistent with the applicable rules. 

 Specifically, a Registered or Approved match does not have to offer the .22 Agg and that is not "breaking the rules"  or "making up the rules" as implied above. As far as the "requirement?" for .22 aggregate match, see 22.6 below.  This indicates (along with the absence from Rule 1.6) that is it not a required Match for a Registered Tournament.  

I appreciate your wanting to shoot, but for every match (Approved or Registered) to offer all the options may be more than the match officials and stat support personnel can handle.  It is at the discretion of those putting on the match.  Some may decide not to do it due to limited participation, additional bookkeeping, providing preference to 2700 3 gun shooters, or for any number of reasons.

Sometimes they just need to know that someone want to have this opportunity.  Give them a call.  Also an offer to help out would not hurt.

I have read the rules throughly, that does not alter that fact that the match program does NOT mention that ONLY JUNIORS may compete with .22 only in all phases and leaves out as a courtesy to others that they may NOT compete in all phases with a .22. If it is good enough for "Junior" shooters then equal allowance for open shooters should be considered or denied IN THE PROGRAM. I have been in touch with the match director and he just repeats that only juniors may use a .22 all day.

CR10X wrote: 

 On to the specifics.  Does the match program say there will be a .22 Only Aggregate Match? The program needs to specify a .22 Only Agg match to have  a .22 Only Agg match.  If it does, then does it specify what type of match it would be?  For example:

1.7 (e) Restricted Match - A match in which competition is limited to specified groups, i.e., juniors, women, police, civilians, veterans etc.; or to specific classes, i.e., High masters, Masters, Experts, Sharpshooters, Marksmen, etc.


To put it simply, they don't have to tell you they don't have a .22 Only Aggregate Match (they need to tell you if they do). 

To me the only issue is (if your description is complete) is they did not specify in the program that juniors are allowed to shoot during all the aggs with a .22.  However, if the juniors are not competing against any other shooters or in any of the other match aggregates (CF / .45) for awards, I'm not sure they have to say anything there either.  They are just providing a courtesy for those juniors to continue to shoot.

The same way I have the option for new shooters (any age) to shoot (not compete) using  the .22 "all day" but only the .22 Agg scores are submitted if there is space on the line not used by "3-gun" competitors that want to shoot.