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Ransom Rest Groups
Just got access to a Ransom Rest and have been playing around with it. What are typical groups for a stock S&W revolver at 25 yards? An internet search has them all over the place and I would like a baseline to evaluate my pistols.
shoot308- Posts : 88
Join date : 2012-08-27
Location : Menomonee Falls, WI
Re: Ransom Rest Groups
Best 148 HBWC factory ammo K38 groups I ever got were 1.5-2" at 50yds. Never did 25.
Best factory DR ammo was 2.5 at best.
Best factory DR ammo was 2.5 at best.
Jack H- Posts : 2699
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Age : 75
Location : Oregon
Re: Ransom Rest Groups
shoot308 wrote:Just got access to a Ransom Rest and have been playing around with it. What are typical groups for a stock S&W revolver at 25 yards? An internet search has them all over the place and I would like a baseline to evaluate my pistols.
25 yds won't tell you much. Much greater differences at 50 yds.
davekp- Posts : 315
Join date : 2011-06-11
Re: Ransom Rest Groups
I have a really long thread on this forum about DR legal ammo--with pictures of the test results--My S&W revolver shoots great 50 yard groups, but only with FACTORY Remington UMC. The ammo that I would make at home shot very well at 25 yards but was so bad at 50 yards that some of the shots weren't scoring.
https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t2221-distinguished-revolver-loads-that-don-t-suck?
You would have to have an extremely bad gun/ammo combination to have a gun that wont shoot 100s at the 25 yard line.
Like Dave KP said, do the testing at 50--that's where you are going to learn what ammo your gun likes.
My model 14 likes all 148gr HBWCs, but only Factory Remington UMC 158gr LRN.
https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t2221-distinguished-revolver-loads-that-don-t-suck?
You would have to have an extremely bad gun/ammo combination to have a gun that wont shoot 100s at the 25 yard line.
Like Dave KP said, do the testing at 50--that's where you are going to learn what ammo your gun likes.
My model 14 likes all 148gr HBWCs, but only Factory Remington UMC 158gr LRN.
Rob Kovach- Admin
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Age : 51
Location : Brooklyn, WI
Re: Ransom Rest Groups
Buy some known high accuracy factory ammunition and test that in your gun. Most quality factory ammo shoots pretty well in most good guns. Testing 2-3 different factory loads should give you a base line to work from.
What calibers are you working with?
What calibers are you working with?
HenryA- Posts : 94
Join date : 2013-08-25
Re: Ransom Rest Groups
Shooting 38s. Only have 25yds to work with until it warms up. Have my S&W 14 down to 1 1/4 10 shot groups with home made button nosed wad cutters and 1 9/16 with hard cast 158 SWC.
shoot308- Posts : 88
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Location : Menomonee Falls, WI
Re: Ransom Rest Groups
S&W 21 yds 2.5" for short barrels in 38 cal.
243winxb- Posts : 344
Join date : 2013-12-01
Age : 80
Location : USA
Re: Ransom Rest Groups
If the 1 9/16 158gr. load holds up at 50 you're in pretty good shape.shoot308 wrote:Shooting 38s. Only have 25yds to work with until it warms up. Have my S&W 14 down to 1 1/4 10 shot groups with home made button nosed wad cutters and 1 9/16 with hard cast 158 SWC.
At that point I'd start trimming cases to identical lengths, inspecting/weighing bullets, trying minor variations in powder charge and different primers. This can get exhausting.
HenryA- Posts : 94
Join date : 2013-08-25
Re: Ransom Rest Groups
I got 2- 3/16" at 50 yds with Federal American Eagle 158gr. The best I could get with 158gr Remington bullet handloads was 4 1/2".
davekp- Posts : 315
Join date : 2011-06-11
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