Holosun HS403GL - First Glance

What worries me as a bullseye shooter is that you cant turn it on or off, the auto on with motion is not a feature that someone trying hold as still as possible would like, how long if held still is it before it shuts off?

The HS403GL doesn't auto-off for 8 hours. Here is what the Holosun website says about battery life:  Employing new LED technology, the life time for one CR2032 battery can last to 50,000 hours.

I have a question about the HS403GL Mikemanm?  Or should I call you LegendaryOptics? I mentioned on your other post about this scope that it looks very heavy/solid but I can not find what it actually weighs. I wouldn't be concerned about the auto-on but the weight might be a problem for me.

Thanks, Len

here is that info direct from the maker; 114gr with low mount= 4oz That's a little heavier but not by much more than a aimpoint micro at 3.7 and a UD 1'' at 3.9

Brand: HOLOSUN
Product Code: HS403GL
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Price: $235.28
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Small compact red dot sight with side battery housing and H/L adjusting turret options. Employing new LED technology, the life time for one CR2032 battery can last to 50,000
hours. The power will be switched on with slight movement of the sight. It may installed on various firearms such as shotguns, pistols, air rifles and crossbows.
Features

• Parallax free with unlimited eye relief.
  
• Unit will "auto wake" when vibration is detected.
  
• Includes accessory AR riser.
  
• Adaptable to Picatinny and Weaver rails.
  
• CNC machining with T6061-T6 housing.
  

 

OPTICAL DATA
Light source	LED
Red Dot Size	2 MOA
Parallax	Parallax free
Eye Relief	Unlimited
Coating	Multi-layer coating for all lens.
magnification	1X
ELECTRONIC DATA
Battery	50,000 hours
Auto Shutoff	8 Hours
Brightness Setting	10DL & 2NV Compatible
MECHANICAL DATA
Housing Material	Aluminum
Housing Finish	PEO/MAO housing finish
Housing Color	Black
Adjust per click	0.5MOA
ENVIROMENTAL DATA
Storage Temperature	-40C to 70C
Working Temperature	-10C to 50C
Waterproof	1m
DIMENSIONS
Dimension	67*38*37 mm with low mount
Weight	86g without mount. 114g with low mount.

Don't forget...with an Ultradot 1", you need to add ring weight. When considered, it weighs 5.3 oz. I'm not knocking that sight (it's a great product), just trying to give you a better comparison.

...and yes. I am with Legendary Optics.

Be nice to have a evaluation from a bullseye shooter who has used one to check out the parallax free claim  and the 2moa dot size which is quite small as most of us use a 4moa or larger and  to see if it would work good for our sport. If all worked good its looks like a great lower cost alternative to the aimpoint micro.

One of the best " shill " threads I have read.
Sorry, could not resist, just saying
I am sure it is a good optic but needs multiple reviews from BE shooters.

Clarence

I would be glad to "test" one for them. I have an ultradot HD micro and have not been bothered by the 2 moa dot on that scope. I suppose it is because I am older and used to a lot of wobble and just accept the sight picture. The small dot also helps when the dot (not my eyes) decides to go into solar flare mode. Smaller dot equals smaller flare. The problem with the micro is that it will not go dim enough to use indoors. It would be nice to see how bright/dim this dot goes.

Len

OldMaster65 wrote:..... The problem with the micro is that it will not go dim enough to use indoors. It would be nice to see how bright/dim this dot goes. Len

Just got a UD Micro 2 days ago, mine goes plenty dim for indoors, almost can't see it at times when on the lowest setting. I also have several Matchdot II's and one of them is WAY brighter than the others and I can't get that one as low as I'd like it even for outdoors.

- Dave

I have 2 of the now discontinued HS403D models. One on my 208S and the other on the slide of one of my .45 wadcutter guns. I haven't shot them much yet, but will report back when I have some rounds downrange with them.

The "D" model, which has the battery compartment on the left (which I like) has been superceded by the GL version.

I asked the company about the warranty for the D when I realized they were no longer available and received a direct email from a Vice President who assures me they would repair, replace, or refund my money if I have a problem with one. He also stated they will hold up mounted on the slide of a .45 wad gun.

The dot seems to be very similar to the Aimpoint H1 a friend loaned me to try. The auto-on feature seemed weird at first, but I've gotten used to it.

More to come after I have used them a bit.

Ric

Does Legendary Optics donate to the National Matches or other bullseye events? That is a consideration for me.

One of the best " shill " threads I have read.
Sorry, could not resist, just saying Smile
I am sure it is a good optic but needs multiple reviews from BE shooters.

Clarence

No "Shill"...Clarence. :-). As the owner of Legendary Optics, I'm just trying to get information about these products out there and get feedback from people like yourselves. Holosun is fairly new company and after meeting them at this years Shot Show...I was impressed with their products...and their price points. I'll be reviewing more of their products as well as others from different manufacturers in the coming weeks and look forward to more discussion.

Does Legendary Optics donate to the National Matches or other bullseye events? That is a consideration for me.

Hi. I am a retailer and not the manufacturer. That said, I will likely be making some donations to bullseye events.

Looks like the Primary Arms red dot

It really does look like the Primary Arms. Reading about the Primary (they have some on E-bay) they say " parallax free after 50 yards" . For some reason I have an easier time believing that claim. I don't think the physics of the red dot sight allow any dot to be 100% parallax free at close range. The 50' match will separate the good from the not so good.

Len

Im not going to be sold till I can test one, there are aimpoint clones on ebay for 50.bucks and I have bought a few, they are exact in everything except the stuff you cant see, and they seem to be almost like the burris that sells for 89.00 but they are not as good as the 600.00 micro.  It took a few posts before I realized you were advertising a product for your company and decided to let it run.  if you would like to continue to "review" your products here I would welcome  you become a forum sponsor and supporter.

Mike,

I agree with David R.  Let's talk about an advertising sponsorship for the forum.

Always make it clear that you are sharing "reviews" of your products as a way to connect bullseye shooters to the products that you sell.  Honesty is always the best policy.

Welcome to the forum and thank you for sharing your products here.

I am also interested in some testing of the holosun as I shoot with the dot near the edge of the tube.  Parallax is a problem for my shooting style.

Rob Kovach wrote:Mike,

I agree with David R.  Let's talk about an advertising sponsorship for the forum.

Always make it clear that you are sharing "reviews" of your products as a way to connect bullseye shooters to the products that you sell.  Honesty is always the best policy.

Welcome to the forum and thank you for sharing your products here.

I am also interested in some testing of the holosun as I shoot with the dot near the edge of the tube.  Parallax is a problem for my shooting style.

Hello Rob and David.  My apologies for any confusion I may have created.  I thought the tag line at the end of my initial post made it clear I was with LO.  When I realized there was some confusion, I quickly posted "...and yes, I am with LO" along with an introduction.  That said, I'll try to be a little more clear in future posts.  I really do want to get feedback from shooters about products to see if they stack up to manufacturer claims. Hopefully you'll allow me to share more of these in the future.  Regarding sponsorship...please email me any information you have at: info@legendaryoptics.com  I'll be happy to look it over to see if it fits into my business model. 

Thanks you guys!

I got bored and curious so decided to check out Holosun and Primary Arms. I found out that they are the same company with different names. The upscale models appear to be the Holosun.
http://www.primaryarms.com/HoloSun_Optics_s/5922.htm
  I dug deeper and found a lot of reviews for the Primary Arms. 12 pages and all of it was good. I did find an article that was a review and had good things to say about it (Holosun). The writer came back later and did a re-classify when the scope failed after 300 rounds on his .308. The writer doesn't recommend it on anything bigger than a 5.56. Primary arms offers an identical scope except for the auto-on function for 169.99. They claim parallax free after 33 yds on their home page. All that being said I might give one a try but would probably start with it on a .22.
  If they want to send me one to test I would be glad to put one on my test pistol and see how long it lasts. The ultradot on this pistol is alive and well after over 300 rounds. The little glued on sticker with the arrows fell off, but scope still works.
 My test pistol...

I have a primarily arms it's a nice peice of equipment and I like it. I tested on a 45 slide mount shot 70 rounds, no loss of zero no malfunction.  

I would have liked a 3 moa dot but had no problem shooting well with it. 

That said I would not use it on a 45acp, for very long without a factory test. 

I think there is a big market for mini dots if factories decide to offer totts style mounts on competition pistols. 
 
I am now using it on a model 41 and taking 5 ounces off the weight of the gun is helpful.

Put my new holosun on my Nelson. Like it very much.
Apparently holding down both brightness buttons puts it into sleep mode.

I have a Primary Arms micro dot. In fact I bought two of them. It works very well on a .22 and the dot is very usable. The first three settings are night vision and from 4 to 11 are the "regular" brightness settings.

I mounted the sight on a .45 with Clark's slide rib and it failed after about 300 rounds - the mounting screw got stripped by recoil. So, it is a fine inexpensive alternative for a .22 but (for me) a no-go on a larger caliber. I don't think that it will survive Len's test pistol!

Having said all this, I switched to 1 inch Ultradots on all my pistols and don't look back at Primary Arms.