Rock River Arms 1911 Range Report?
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Rock River Arms 1911 Range Report?
Any range reports or information on the quality/accuracy of the new RRA 1911-A1 NM Hardball? Thanks.
RAFA1911- Posts : 6
Join date : 2014-03-31
Re: Rock River Arms 1911 Range Report?
You are talking Rock River, not Rock island right? Im sure the new rock river guns are as good as the previous ones
DavidR- Admin
- Posts : 3032
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 70
Location : NRA:Expert, Georgia
Re: Rock River Arms 1911 Range Report?
I would be very interested in any information about the new RRA 1911 (particularly whether anyone has actually seen and held one), since I had my local gun shop inquire and order one in August 2014 when I heard they were to be produced again.
I was present when the order was phoned in and RRA confirmed that they were going to make them, accepted the order and I put my money down.
RRA quoted a delivery time of 30 days. Frankly, I did not believe it, but I did think it meant they were about to get going, did not have a backlog of orders, and that it would not be too long.
After 5 months the LGS checked and RRA said they had "no idea" when the gun would be delivered.
In May 2015 (9 months) they said "soon."
I expect that the new 1911s will be as good as the older ones because RRA's reputation is on the line and they are making the same guarantee as to accuracy and function. But, if you order one, don't put much faith in their ability to deliver on their promises as to when you will see it.
At this point, I am sure they will take anything the have made to Perry, so I am not holding my breath. I guess I should have nailed them down as to when they planned to start counting the "30 days."
I was present when the order was phoned in and RRA confirmed that they were going to make them, accepted the order and I put my money down.
RRA quoted a delivery time of 30 days. Frankly, I did not believe it, but I did think it meant they were about to get going, did not have a backlog of orders, and that it would not be too long.
After 5 months the LGS checked and RRA said they had "no idea" when the gun would be delivered.
In May 2015 (9 months) they said "soon."
I expect that the new 1911s will be as good as the older ones because RRA's reputation is on the line and they are making the same guarantee as to accuracy and function. But, if you order one, don't put much faith in their ability to deliver on their promises as to when you will see it.
At this point, I am sure they will take anything the have made to Perry, so I am not holding my breath. I guess I should have nailed them down as to when they planned to start counting the "30 days."
Allan Campbell- Posts : 28
Join date : 2011-07-14
Location : 24
Re: Rock River Arms 1911 Range Report?
Doesn't sound like how they did business, have you talked to Chuck directly?
DavidR- Admin
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Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 70
Location : NRA:Expert, Georgia
Re: Rock River Arms 1911 Range Report?
Actually, I have not spoken to Chuck. I have worked through my LGS and have been present for at least the calls I described above. I believe they were speaking to his ordertaking people. Whoever the LGS spoke to went away to get answers and I don't know who they talked to.
I will try to reach him tomorrow as they are closed now. I really don't want them to hurry the build, as I want a really good gun, but I would like to know a real estimate of a delivery date. I, of course, don't know where in line my order stands, but after all this time it should be reaching the front of the line.
I will try to reach him tomorrow as they are closed now. I really don't want them to hurry the build, as I want a really good gun, but I would like to know a real estimate of a delivery date. I, of course, don't know where in line my order stands, but after all this time it should be reaching the front of the line.
Allan Campbell- Posts : 28
Join date : 2011-07-14
Location : 24
Re: Rock River Arms 1911 Range Report?
I have read poor reviews on some other 1911 sites. I hope they aren't accurate reviews, and I hope the OP's order comes through soon.
DeweyHales- Posts : 641
Join date : 2011-06-10
Location : North Carolina
Re: Rock River Arms 1911 Range Report?
Update. After my posting on thread, I was contacted by a representative of Rock River. Since he did not contact me through this forum, I will not mention his name. He might not mind, but that should be his choice.
He was not surprised that I could not get past the customer service people to talk to Chuck. He was going to be at the factory in a few days and offered to check on my order. He did so and called me to let me know the gun was finished and awaiting test firing. Apparently, they had some software problems and then some issues with availability of their ransom rest site.
In any event, the gun arrived Friday. I have not had it to the range yet, but it appears perfect. The fit and finish are flawless. In fact, the blueing is better than an older RRA Bullseye wadcutter I have. Trigger is crisp at just a hair over 3 1/2 lbs. The test target has a group that I measure to be just over 1" center to center. Conservatively, it could be 1 1/8". It is hard to measure exactly as it appears they used jacketed bullets (smaller hole and no lead residue to show outer edges).
While I wish Rock River had been more candid about delivery times ("we have no idea" and "soon" after 10 months are not helpful.), I am happy with the result. I will give a report after I have it at the range, but expect the report will be that it shoots better than I can hold.
He was not surprised that I could not get past the customer service people to talk to Chuck. He was going to be at the factory in a few days and offered to check on my order. He did so and called me to let me know the gun was finished and awaiting test firing. Apparently, they had some software problems and then some issues with availability of their ransom rest site.
In any event, the gun arrived Friday. I have not had it to the range yet, but it appears perfect. The fit and finish are flawless. In fact, the blueing is better than an older RRA Bullseye wadcutter I have. Trigger is crisp at just a hair over 3 1/2 lbs. The test target has a group that I measure to be just over 1" center to center. Conservatively, it could be 1 1/8". It is hard to measure exactly as it appears they used jacketed bullets (smaller hole and no lead residue to show outer edges).
While I wish Rock River had been more candid about delivery times ("we have no idea" and "soon" after 10 months are not helpful.), I am happy with the result. I will give a report after I have it at the range, but expect the report will be that it shoots better than I can hold.
Allan Campbell- Posts : 28
Join date : 2011-07-14
Location : 24
Re: Rock River Arms 1911 Range Report?
Over the years, I have bought a fair number of Rock River Products for customers... One or two bullseye guns, but quite a few AR Rifle Platforms, for black rifle aficiondos and Law Enforcement officers.. Not one complaint have I gotten from customers about the products, and the service I receive has been outstanding..
Jerry Keefer- Posts : 1001
Join date : 2012-01-02
Location : Maidens, VA
Re: Rock River Arms 1911 Range Report?
Jerry Goldfarb just e-mailed me for any report on the RRA Bullseye wadcutter. It had gone back for an adjustment and I got it back Friday. I shot it in a match Sunday for the first time.
Here is my reply to Jerry:
Hi Jerry,
I do owe you all a post. The RR is great. Fit and finish are better than an older one I have. There was an issue with the hammer not being caught by the sear occasionally (maybe 2 - 5% of the time) but RR fixed that promptly.
Shot it in my first match Sunday and shot some of my best 45 scores. I don't keep track closely enough to be sure they were personal bests, but they were close.
The test target has a group of about 1 1/8". The trigger is clean and crisp. At first I found the takeup of slack a bit heavier than I am used to, but quickly found that it helps because the final additional pressure to release feels less.
I any event, the gun is well worth the wait.
I am shooting a H&G 68 clone which I cast with 3.8 gr of N310. I have not taken the gun to the ransom rest yet to find it's favorite load.
Ejection is very consistent and only 2 rounds out of 180 missed my net. The older I get the nicer it is not to crawl around picking up brass.
If you are in the market for a semi-custom 45, this is a really good way to go.
Allan Campbell- Posts : 28
Join date : 2011-07-14
Location : 24
Re: Rock River Arms 1911 Range Report?
Thanks for the update. Enjoy. I have a used .45 RRA with PPC sights on the way for combat matches, not Bullseye.
Jerry Goldfarb- Posts : 81
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 86
Location : South Florida
Re: Rock River Arms 1911 Range Report?
One thing that impressed me about the RR wad guns is that the slide to frame fit was so tight. Even so, they required no "break-in" like a lot of the older bullseye smithed pistols, I've owned. Happy to hear that the new ones continue to be very good.Allan Campbell wrote:Update. After my posting on thread, I was contacted by a representative of Rock River. Since he did not contact me through this forum, I will not mention his name. He might not mind, but that should be his choice.
He was not surprised that I could not get past the customer service people to talk to Chuck. He was going to be at the factory in a few days and offered to check on my order. He did so and called me to let me know the gun was finished and awaiting test firing. Apparently, they had some software problems and then some issues with availability of their ransom rest site.
In any event, the gun arrived Friday. I have not had it to the range yet, but it appears perfect. The fit and finish are flawless. In fact, the blueing is better than an older RRA Bullseye wadcutter I have. Trigger is crisp at just a hair over 3 1/2 lbs. The test target has a group that I measure to be just over 1" center to center. Conservatively, it could be 1 1/8". It is hard to measure exactly as it appears they used jacketed bullets (smaller hole and no lead residue to show outer edges).
While I wish Rock River had been more candid about delivery times ("we have no idea" and "soon" after 10 months are not helpful.), I am happy with the result. I will give a report after I have it at the range, but expect the report will be that it shoots better than I can hold.
BE Mike- Posts : 2564
Join date : 2011-07-29
Location : Indiana
Re: Rock River Arms 1911 Range Report?
BE Mike wrote:One thing that impressed me about the RR wad guns is that the slide to frame fit was so tight. Even so, they required no "break-in" like a lot of the older bullseye smithed pistols, I've owned. Happy to hear that the new ones continue to be very good.
I've rebuilt 3 RR in last the year. They are definitely good quality. I'd like to point out that the "break-in" of older smithed pistols was a good thing! I know some of the smiths made them a little too snug, but in the long run it pays off. The only negative I typically see in this light is the Baer pistols are so poorly fit that they leave the bottom lugs too tight to compensate for poor gunsmithing.
Jon
Jon Eulette- Posts : 4399
Join date : 2013-04-15
Location : Southern Kalifornia
Re: Rock River Arms 1911 Range Report?
Picked up a new NM Hardball from RRA recently. The fit, finish, and accuracy are excellent. Reliability has been 100% with ball ammo, jacketed JHP, jacketed SWC, as well as lead SWC after five hundred rounds.
172snowhawk- Posts : 28
Join date : 2014-03-24
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