RO trigger work for dummies -
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RO trigger work for dummies -
Improving Range Officer Trigger pull for dummies (& non-pistolsmiths)-: K.I.S.S. -
RO ILS mainsprings are extra stout (30#s) & might not take to a lot of sear spring tweaking. - So:
Save time, hassle, & $s - - get a Wolff 24# reduced power ILS mainspring (the lightest of the 3)-install it (easy with the SA ILS housing take down pin) - put a touch of Neco Molyslide on the sear/hammer hooks.
The 4-5 ROs I know of that've done this vary from 3½# to 4# trigger pull weight with no other modifications - and have zero function/ignition problems.
Spring #s sound odd?-Trust Wolff.
Try it- I think you'll like it. if you don't - it was a cheap & easy. -- Russ OR
RO ILS mainsprings are extra stout (30#s) & might not take to a lot of sear spring tweaking. - So:
Save time, hassle, & $s - - get a Wolff 24# reduced power ILS mainspring (the lightest of the 3)-install it (easy with the SA ILS housing take down pin) - put a touch of Neco Molyslide on the sear/hammer hooks.
The 4-5 ROs I know of that've done this vary from 3½# to 4# trigger pull weight with no other modifications - and have zero function/ignition problems.
Spring #s sound odd?-Trust Wolff.
Try it- I think you'll like it. if you don't - it was a cheap & easy. -- Russ OR
Russ OR- Posts : 269
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
Thanks! By any chance have you got any experience or opinion on the four leg sear leaf spring vs the three leg sear leaf spring?
Tim:H11- Posts : 2133
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
Also I see midway sells a wolf reduced power mainspring kit. 19, 20 and 21 pounds. You mentioned 23 pounds, would 21 be too light?
Tim:H11- Posts : 2133
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
Tim:H11 wrote:Also I see midway sells a wolf reduced power mainspring kit. 19, 20 and 21 pounds. You mentioned 23 pounds, would 21 be too light?
I'd double check to see if those weights are for the ILS mainspring housing or standard
STEVE SAMELAK- Posts : 958
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
Stay away from 4 leaf. Won't help. Use Colt style 3 leaf (has a long cutout).
Jon
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Jon Eulette- Posts : 4399
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
Midway doesn't say if the springs would fit in in ILS housing or not.... Does it matter?
Tim:H11- Posts : 2133
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
Tim:H11 wrote:Midway doesn't say if the springs would fit in in ILS housing or not.... Does it matter?
ILS springs are different from 'normal' mainsprings. Some take the more commonly available 'normal' springs and cut them down. Others of us swap out the ILS for a 'normal' mainspring housing and use the regular springs. It isn't necessary to change the housing now that there is a choice of springs to fit ILS guns but it made me feel less 'controlled'.
Bruce
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
Is the cut out in the sear spring for the hammer strut?
Tim:H11- Posts : 2133
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
No it's off to the side. Have always had good results keeping weight with them.
Jon
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Jon Eulette- Posts : 4399
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
+1 on the colt leaf springs..
jglenn21- Posts : 2620
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
Jon knows what he is talking about. I always pay attention to Jon's posts.
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ChipEck- Posts : 198
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
Don't confuse the SA ILS mainsprings & numbers with standard mainsprings & numbers - the ILS numbers are higher. Go to the Wolff website-Find the section for Springfield Armory pistols-they have a well noted section for springs for the SA ILS housings. - Maybe get 3 springs & share?-we did. - - Search for Wolff gunsprings -- - Russ
Russ OR- Posts : 269
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
+1 on Jon's reply as well. I only use Colt sear springs in my builds. The Clark 4 leaf spring "fixes" a problem that really doesn't exist.
Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
I'm just gonna order a new mainspring housing and use standard springs... Less complicated. BUT - can I use the pins from the ILS housing in the standard housing? I believe the new housing is just the housing. No pins.
Tim:H11- Posts : 2133
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
Yes the pins are the same but you need a new standard mainspring cap and pin retainer. Below is a copy and paste of my order from Midway.
ription | Price | Quantity | Total |
Springfield Armory Mainspring Housing Flat 1911 Government, Commander Checkered 20 LPI Blue Product #: 583572 | $26.99 | 1 | $26.99 |
Wilson Combat Factory Plus Mainspring Housing Pin Retainer 1911 Government, Commander Steel Blue Product #: 835662 | $2.99 | 1 | $2.99 |
Wilson Combat Factory Plus Mainspring Cap 1911 Blue Product #: 298985 | $2.99 | 1 | $2.99 |
Wolff Mainspring 1911 Government, Commander 21 lb Product #: 486705 |
KevinB- Posts : 116
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
You also need the mainspring cap pin since the ILS does not use one.
KevinB- Posts : 116
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
What about this?
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/148263/springfield-armory-complete-pin-set-1911-parkerized
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/148263/springfield-armory-complete-pin-set-1911-parkerized
Tim:H11- Posts : 2133
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
Tim:H11 wrote:What about this?
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/148263/springfield-armory-complete-pin-set-1911-parkerized
I believe that set will give you exactly what you already have, it sounds like a replacement set of OEM parts. Brownell's lists a set of the 'normal' Mainspring housing pins as I recall, seems like it was $10 or so when I swapped mine out a few years back.
Bruce
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Re: RO trigger work for dummies -
Brownells also now sells a whole pin kit for the 1911 under their name for $10.
used a couple of the sets without issue
used a couple of the sets without issue
jglenn21- Posts : 2620
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