Cost of E-targets
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Cost of E-targets
I almost put this in with the discussion/poll on Perry v Cardinal as that was the way that OP was leaning but 7 pages is enough to get lost in. I have a serious question about the cost of E-targets. I see figures like 3-4k per lane but I wonder if that is realistic. What does it cost for one target? I mean 1 target. Is there a system that you have to purchase that makes it cost prohibitive for small range America? Can it work with a range that only has 20 firing points? 10? There is discussion about the E-targets being the wave of the future. I just wonder if the price tag of 3-4k is because they are getting a discount because of quantity buying. That's scary. We have a big match here in Oregon if we can get 20 people to the line.
Len
Len
LenV- Posts : 4758
Join date : 2014-01-24
Age : 74
Location : Oregon
Re: Cost of E-targets
Exactly!
Jon Eulette- Posts : 4399
Join date : 2013-04-15
Location : Southern Kalifornia
Re: Cost of E-targets
A little additional follow up from I understand by the time the range is modified and everything is installed the per lane price goes up to $6-12K. The targets might be only $4K but a lot of work needs to be done to get them installed.
My 10M SIUS airgun target cost $1,300 new and it uses my laptop as the monitor.
- Dave
My 10M SIUS airgun target cost $1,300 new and it uses my laptop as the monitor.
- Dave
dronning- Posts : 2581
Join date : 2013-03-20
Age : 70
Location : Lakeville, MN
Re: Cost of E-targets
Electric targets than other supported elite type use would have to make their own revenue stream to purchase and maintain the system. Given the marksmanship level and attitude of most of the public and members at our range, we would often need new targets daily.
Jack H- Posts : 2693
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 75
Location : Oregon
Re: Cost of E-targets
The Canadian government bought 30 SIUS 10m e-targets for the army cadets. They spent $381k. The supplier was from South Carolina. The targets for air pistol/rifle are very small; would the cost go up significantly to handle the big Precision Pistol targets?
PDF of the full specs for the contract
Contract details
PDF of the full specs for the contract
Contract details
desben- Posts : 385
Join date : 2013-12-22
Location : Ontario, Canada
Re: Cost of E-targets
desben wrote:The Canadian government bought 30 SIUS 10m e-targets for the army cadets. They spent $381k. The supplier was from South Carolina. The targets for air pistol/rifle are very small; would the cost go up significantly to handle the big Precision Pistol targets?
PDF of the full specs for the contract
Contract details
The HS-10 is the same system I bought as a stand alone.
The attached SOW was for an additional 4 30 target systems, 120 lanes total. Each of the 4 systems would have their own server, wiring and 30 targets each with a monitor, 1 set of spare circuit boards. The SOW also asked for complete set up and testing to be done.
Still a turnkey eTarget set up for air rifle/pistol is $3,200 per lane (I am assuming the $381K is for the 4 additional set ups).
There is no way a High Power or Precision Pistol range could go in for anything close to TWICE that price.
- Dave
dronning- Posts : 2581
Join date : 2013-03-20
Age : 70
Location : Lakeville, MN
Re: Cost of E-targets
Thanks for correcting me dronning! I had read this quick, and did not realize it was for 4 installations. It makes a big difference!
desben- Posts : 385
Join date : 2013-12-22
Location : Ontario, Canada
Re: Cost of E-targets
Len,
Tri-co gun club has e-targets for the junior program. It is set up on the 10 point indoor range for when the juniors practice. They can run matches on it and all connect to a central computer. For them it makes lots of sense considering the goals of the kids and were they can go by training on the same type of set up they will see at larger matches.
Tri-co gun club has e-targets for the junior program. It is set up on the 10 point indoor range for when the juniors practice. They can run matches on it and all connect to a central computer. For them it makes lots of sense considering the goals of the kids and were they can go by training on the same type of set up they will see at larger matches.
Toz35m- Posts : 264
Join date : 2012-10-17
Location : PDX
Re: Cost of E-targets
so, what's the cost for 20 lanes, outdoors, at the local club level.
how do you handle 25 and 50 yds.
I don't want to get quotes for 10m indoor air gun installations.
how do you handle 25 and 50 yds.
I don't want to get quotes for 10m indoor air gun installations.
james r chapman- Admin
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Location : HELL, Michigan
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Toz35m, I didn't know they already had e-targets at Tri County. That is good for the youngsters. I wonder how they would work for WVPL? I can't imagine going to E-targets on the pistol range however. As much money that was spent on replacing the baffles could you imagine them putting hardened (think ricochet) targets down range?
Len
Len
LenV- Posts : 4758
Join date : 2014-01-24
Age : 74
Location : Oregon
Re: Cost of E-targets
So for a souvenir after a good round do you take the electronic target home with you? :-)
Chip
Chip
ChipEck- Posts : 198
Join date : 2015-11-15
Location : Wisconsin
Re: Cost of E-targets
ChipEck wrote:So for a souvenir after a good round do you take the electronic target home with you? :-)
Chip
You can take a picture of the monitor on your cell phone. Then print it out any size you want. Or share it on Facebook.
LenV- Posts : 4758
Join date : 2014-01-24
Age : 74
Location : Oregon
Re: Cost of E-targets
Actually they can email you a PDF of the target via the software. The reports can be set up so you get one target per page or a summary like the one in the link.ChipEck wrote:So for a souvenir after a good round do you take the electronic target home with you? :-)
Chip
PDF of recent SIUS target
- Dave
dronning- Posts : 2581
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Age : 70
Location : Lakeville, MN
Re: Cost of E-targets
And, you can Photoshop it.,
james r chapman- Admin
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I have a target that I saved from Camp Perry (like many of you). It was witnessed by a great guy who has passed away. I have another target witnessed by another great guy who is no longer with us. Looks like those days are passing by. Having said that, technology is advancing quickly. Looks like we either jump on board or we'll be left behind.ChipEck wrote:So for a souvenir after a good round do you take the electronic target home with you? :-)
Chip
BE Mike- Posts : 2564
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Left Behind!
BE Mike wrote:I have a target that I saved from Camp Perry (like many of you). It was witnessed by a great guy who has passed away. I have another target witnessed by another great guy who is no longer with us. Looks like those days are passing by. Having said that, technology is advancing quickly. Looks like we either jump on board or we'll be left behind.ChipEck wrote:So for a souvenir after a good round do you take the electronic target home with you? :-)
Chip
So many worry about being left behind, I am not so sure that it is a bad thing! Far too many changes are made (largely in business) just so that the person suggesting the change can justify their existence (job). Frequently a look back shows steps that should not have been taken but by then it's time for the next change......
What is so wrong with maintaining the status quo in a very traditional sport? We worry at length about not attracting 'today's youth' to the shooting sports because our targets do not resemble video games, well guess what, successful shooting is hard work and there has never been a 'majority' that were willing to do that hard work. A small percentage will put down their smart phones long enough to give it a try but few will become dedicated no matter what the targets become.
Bruce
Fire Escape- Posts : 223
Join date : 2013-06-23
Location : New Hampshire
Re: Cost of E-targets
I like paper targets. But in Air Pistol, I find that I shoot the same whether at paper or E-targets.
The difference with Bullseye is the turn, just as it was the difference with Rapid Fire Pistol. I know for a fact that I get a couple of points without the turn vs. with the turn. However, that doesn't mean I think it is a good thing.
The difference with Bullseye is the turn, just as it was the difference with Rapid Fire Pistol. I know for a fact that I get a couple of points without the turn vs. with the turn. However, that doesn't mean I think it is a good thing.
jmdavis- Posts : 1409
Join date : 2012-03-24
Location : Virginia
Re: Cost of E-targets
I just can't see local clubs doing the electronic thing. Heck if our turning targets break We can fix them ourselves. Darn things are at least 30 years old
Be fine at larger events like the new CMP ranges at Talladega
Be fine at larger events like the new CMP ranges at Talladega
jglenn21- Posts : 2618
Join date : 2015-04-07
Age : 76
Location : monroe , ga
Re: Cost of E-targets
Len,OldMaster65 wrote:Toz35m, I didn't know they already had e-targets at Tri County. That is good for the youngsters. I wonder how they would work for WVPL? I can't imagine going to E-targets on the pistol range however. As much money that was spent on replacing the baffles could you imagine them putting hardened (think ricochet) targets down range?
Len
They will not be used for WVPL. The have been there for 2 years now I think.
Toz35m- Posts : 264
Join date : 2012-10-17
Location : PDX
Re: Cost of E-targets
At Talladega they did give us printouts from the booth on our hits in all the rifle and pistol matches. I'm sure it could be photoshopped like anything else could I just typed a novel to AllAces about my time there last week, so I'll post it elsewhere.
Regular_Guy- Posts : 84
Join date : 2015-05-03
Location : Alexandria, VA
Re: Cost of E-targets
RG, did they look at your ammo also? Was ammo discussed ?
Danehogle- Posts : 381
Join date : 2015-07-13
Location : Mt. Vernon Ohio
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