Sig P220 X- Opinions

Does anyone have a Sig P220 X-Five or X-Six?

How are they for competition?

I've gunsmithed on the 9 millimeter version and also shot it, not a user friendly bullseye gun. Save your money and invest it wisely in a real BE wadgun. They're also surprisingly heavy.
Jon

I looked it up in the cmp rules just now. If your looking at it as a EIC pistol they allow the 220 match and 220 super match in 45ACP but no other calibers. If you go to the 226 you have more caliber choices but .45 isn't one of them. That's why I find it interesting. Another FYI if you are interested (or anyone else) in the 226 there is a neat set of Karl Nills on ebay right now. NFI

http://www.ebay.com/itm/182015280429?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Jon Eulette wrote:I've gunsmithed on the 9 millimeter version and also shot it, not a user friendly bullseye gun. Save your money and invest it wisely in a real BE wadgun. They're also surprisingly heavy.
Jon

I definitely agree with the above. To the OP: Listen to the voices of experience. Unless you already own one of those pistols, stick with what has worked for over many decades (an accurized 1911).

BE Mike wrote:

Jon Eulette wrote:I've gunsmithed on the 9 millimeter version and also shot it, not a user friendly bullseye gun. Save your money and invest it wisely in a real BE wadgun. They're also surprisingly heavy.
Jon

I definitely agree with the above. To the OP: Listen to the voices of experience. Unless you already own one of those pistols, stick with what has worked for over many decades (an accurized 1911).

Well, that's why I'm here. Forums are great.


I have been a big fan of -- and have been shooting 1911s since about 1971; although, I've never owned an accurized one. Mine have been defensive pistols with fixed sights.

I've been thinking about a Les Baer the last few years -- not sure which model. But I heard from a couple people that his quality is not what it used to be. Someone said he was surprised that fit and finish were not what he expected. I don't know. It's hard when you don't have one to check out before you buy. That is somewhat of an advantage with 1911s though. It's not like going to something totally unfamiliar.

Forget Les Baer.  Of you want an off the shelf pistol go with a Springfield Range Officer.  It has the advantage that it will do out of the box for an EIC gun.  Then scour the ads here and online for an all-up wad gun. If it is old you might need to send it off for a tuneup and perhaps a rebarrel but that's about all.

Wobbley wrote:Forget Les Baer.  Of you want an off the shelf pistol go with a Springfield Range Officer.  It has the advantage that it will do out of the box for an EIC gun.  Then scour the ads here and online for an all-up wad gun. If it is old you might need to send it off for a tuneup and perhaps a rebarrel but that's about all.

Okay -- I've been strictly a self-defense type shooter -- no actual competition. So please excuse my ignorance regarding some of the terms here. What is EIC?     wad gun?

EIC means "Excellence in Competition" or colloquially as "Leg matches".  You have to shoot a "service pistol" and jacketed ammunition.  If you place in the top ten percent AND scor 250 points or more you get points towards the Distinguished Pistol Shot badge.  

Wad guns are 45s that are setup for shooting wadcutter match ammunition.  They may have ribs and scopes and such.

I am planning to shoot some IDPA matches with my son. He shoots a S&W model 65. I'm going use my 65. I think I'll also do some pistol matches with my Para LDA. I don't know if I'll ever do any bullseye matches, but I do want to at least practice it by myself. I'm not sure I'd want to use a scope -- just good 'ole iron sights. I have to admit, I also want a few high-end guns... just because now I finally can. I'm picking up a new Pardini GT9 this Tuesday.

Old thread, but I've found myself interested in a P220.

What would make a P220 X series "not a user friendly bullseye gun"?

I have a Sig 226 with the trigger reset kit. It's a great pistol for my club's informal IDPA matches. Great night stand gun too. 

Bill

messenger wrote:I have a Sig 226 with the trigger reset kit. It's a great pistol for my club's informal IDPA matches. Great night stand gun too. 

Bill

Well, I wouldn't get a 3000€ pistol to serve as night stand duty. The combo I was looking at is 5500€ and includes .22lR and 9mm calibre changes.

When you get into Sig you have to ask yourself whether you like Sig ergonomics in general. Grip is wide and is more toward 90 degrees than most other guns. It is not as natural pointing as 1911. Else Sigs are great. I had Sig P226 RX SAO Romeo, that thing was very accurate and trigger (slightly reduced hammer spring) was sooo smooth, perfect roll, crisp release, a bit under 3lbs. Very reliable too.  Had to sell it as I could not get used to that width and angle.  220 has less width but same angle, so it is marginally better for me to hold than 226, still not the same as 1911. So how about Sigs? Awesome guns, proven reliability, abundance of parts and information. Trigger on SAO models is awesome, X models even better with adjustability. Can you have surgical accuracy?  Sure, there are actually tests floating around on the internet for X5, see linky below.  Can accurized 1911's beat them in raw accuracy? Of course, but in real world operator is the key, not raw accuracy. The other key is ergonomics, you shoot better what you hold and control better. 

https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=101268.0

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/10/12/exclusive-testing-worlds-accurate-pistols-part/amp/

Slartybartfast wrote:

messenger wrote:I have a Sig 226 with the trigger reset kit. It's a great pistol for my club's informal IDPA matches. Great night stand gun too. 

Bill

Well, I wouldn't get a 3000€ pistol to serve as night stand duty. The combo I was looking at is 5500€ and includes .22lR and 9mm calibre changes.

Did Canada join the EU? Is the US next?

Jon Eulette wrote:I've gunsmithed on the 9 millimeter version and also shot it, not a user friendly bullseye gun. Save your money and invest it wisely in a real BE wadgun. They're also surprisingly heavy.
Jon

See above. ^^^

Outthere wrote:

Jon Eulette wrote:I've gunsmithed on the 9 millimeter version and also shot it, not a user friendly bullseye gun. Save your money and invest it wisely in a real BE wadgun. They're also surprisingly heavy.
Jon

See above. ^^^

In no way an informative answer.
Why is it not "a user friendly bullseye gun"?

TonyH wrote:

Slartybartfast wrote:

messenger wrote:I have a Sig 226 with the trigger reset kit. It's a great pistol for my club's informal IDPA matches. Great night stand gun too. 

Bill

Well, I wouldn't get a 3000€ pistol to serve as night stand duty. The combo I was looking at is 5500€ and includes .22lR and 9mm calibre changes.

Did Canada join the EU? Is the US next?

No, not part of the EU. But fairly easy to import pistols from there and get German built Sigs.

Slartybartfast wrote:

Did Canada join the EU? Is the US next?

No, not part of the EU. But fairly easy to import pistols from there and get German built Sigs.

Phew!! You had me sweating!
Makes sense if they are easy to import...I do have a German built P226 (nice gun)....bought before SIG got popular in the US.

I have a SIG 226 X5 (9mm) it is a sub 2" 50 yd gun and a good night stand or self defense gun. Hi capacity, high accuracy, high dependability and so on. Scope mounting may be limited, but the gun with irons is not.