Loading New Cases - High Forces???
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Loading New Cases - High Forces???
So I know I'm getting a late start, but I'm starting to load up my Camp Perry ammo. I just got in some brand new Starline 45 ACP cases so I am loading those for at least my long line rounds. However, when the primed case goes up into the powder through expanding die it has more resistance than normal and then the resistance is very high when I raise the lever back up to remove the case from that die. I don't have anywhere near this resistance level when loading my older Starline brass. Any suggestions as to what is going on???
I'm using a Lee Classic Turret Press with Lee dies.
I'm using a Lee Classic Turret Press with Lee dies.
dstates- Posts : 199
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Re: Loading New Cases - High Forces???
not unusual with new brass.. especially sticking on the expander die..
you can try some spray lube but I prefer to simply polish the brass in my tumbler with a cap full of Nu-Finish added.. this polish along with a bit of dust from the corn cobs will fix the issue. this is also the reason your older brass having been tumbled doesn't do it
you can try some spray lube but I prefer to simply polish the brass in my tumbler with a cap full of Nu-Finish added.. this polish along with a bit of dust from the corn cobs will fix the issue. this is also the reason your older brass having been tumbled doesn't do it
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Re: Loading New Cases - High Forces???
Lube them.
jmdavis- Posts : 1409
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Re: Loading New Cases - High Forces???
Noticed the same when loading new starline brass for .38spl, .357, and .38sc. The noticeable hangup was on the powder through expander, once the brass residue was wiped off, periodically, the press smoothed up considerably. Guessing a tiny bit of roughness is on the inside of the case mouths causing the expander to smooth it out.
Sc0- Posts : 316
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Re: Loading New Cases - High Forces???
jglenn21 wrote:not unusual with new brass.. especially sticking on the expander die..
you can try some spray lube but I prefer to simply polish the brass in my tumbler with a cap full of Nu-Finish added.. this polish along with a bit of dust from the corn cobs will fix the issue. this is also the reason your older brass having been tumbled doesn't do it
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tumbled...
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Re: Loading New Cases - High Forces???
Thanks, guys. This is only my second order of new brass. I don't remember it being this tough with the first, but that was a couple years ago. I'll tumble them today and hopefully load more.
See you at Perry.
Doug
See you at Perry.
Doug
dstates- Posts : 199
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Re: Loading New Cases - High Forces???
Every year it gets harder and harder to pull that handle.dstates wrote:Thanks, guys. This is only my second order of new brass. I don't remember it being this tough with the first, but that was a couple years ago. I'll tumble them today and hopefully load more.
See you at Perry.
Doug
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Re: Loading New Cases - High Forces???
hornady spray case lube, stand them up and spray a few hundred at a time, dries in a minute and loads like butter.
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Does all this extra lubing affect the crimp tension we try so hard to put on the bullet at the end of the loading process. Or does the case expand before the bullet has time to travel so no affect?
SNaymola- Posts : 39
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Re: Loading New Cases - High Forces???
DavidR wrote:hornady spray case lube, stand them up and spray a few hundred at a time, dries in a minute and loads like butter.
How long does the application of Hornady One Shot case lube stay usable? Can it be applied after cleaning brass and before the brass is stored, or is it best applied just before loading?
The Hornady case lube makes it a lot easier to have a good smooth uninterrupted loading session.
Sa-tevp- Posts : 964
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Re: Loading New Cases - High Forces???
Once you spray it your good, ive had some in a sealed plastic box done a year ago that still works like I did them yesterday.Sa-tevp wrote:DavidR wrote:hornady spray case lube, stand them up and spray a few hundred at a time, dries in a minute and loads like butter.
How long does the application of Hornady One Shot case lube stay usable? Can it be applied after cleaning brass and before the brass is stored, or is it best applied just before loading?
The Hornady case lube makes it a lot easier to have a good smooth uninterrupted loading session.
DavidR- Admin
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Re: Loading New Cases - High Forces???
I spray the inside of a gallon zip lock bag with lube. Dump casings in the bag and shake them up for a bit them dump them in the case feeder
sixftunda- Posts : 455
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Re: Loading New Cases - High Forces???
DON'T USE TOO MUCH SPRAY LUBE!!!
I made some duds that way....you don't need duds at Perry!!!
I made some duds that way....you don't need duds at Perry!!!
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Re: Loading New Cases - High Forces???
What were you using, never had any issues using hornady case spray lubeRob Kovach wrote:DON'T USE TOO MUCH SPRAY LUBE!!!
I made some duds that way....you don't need duds at Perry!!!
DavidR- Admin
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Re: Loading New Cases - High Forces???
I used some Dillon spray lube once and had to pull the bullet. A lot of powder has stuck to the sidewall
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Re: Loading New Cases - High Forces???
those type case lubes are for rifle mostly, buy the hornady and forget the rest, it will not cause primer failure, it says so right on the can.Christopher Miceli wrote:I used some Dillon spray lube once and had to pull the bullet. A lot of powder has stuck to the sidewall
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