Zero 158gr lswchp info

I'm getting a bunch of these as part of a package deal. Any info on accuracy and load data greatly appreciated. With Zero 158 gr lswc I'm using 3.3 gr WST with good results.
http://www.rozedist.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RZD&Product_Code=R122-A&Category_Code=ZSB-38S

45acp??
I assume the 158gr is a typo you title said LSWCHP and that is a 185gr .45 bullet.  3.3 of WST seems pretty light, I use the same 4.1gr for long and short lines.  3.8 is just slightly less accurate and with my set up won't lock the slide back 100%.  1.22 OAL & .470 crimp.

If your looking for 38 special loads you could go a little lighter than 3.3 of WST.

- Dave

No, .38. It was news to me as well.

There's several threads on .38 distinguished loads that might help you.

james r chapman wrote:There's several threads on .38 distinguished loads that might help you.

I don't think I've seen the hollow point mentioned.

orpheoet wrote:

james r chapman wrote:There's several threads on .38 distinguished loads that might help you.

I don't think I've seen the hollow point mentioned.

For the NRA DR program, it's only round nose and semi-wadcutters.  HP's are not legal AFAIK.

cdrt wrote:

orpheoet wrote:

james r chapman wrote:There's several threads on .38 distinguished loads that might help you.

I don't think I've seen the hollow point mentioned.

For the NRA DR program, it's only round nose and semi-wadcutters.  HP's are not legal AFAIK.

I'm just looking for any info on safe loads for centerfire use. I just have no idea what to do with these!

orpheoet wrote:

cdrt wrote:

orpheoet wrote:

james r chapman wrote:There's several threads on .38 distinguished loads that might help you.

I don't think I've seen the hollow point mentioned.

For the NRA DR program, it's only round nose and semi-wadcutters.  HP's are not legal AFAIK.

I'm just looking for any info on safe loads for centerfire use. I just have no idea what to do with these!

Oh, okay, sorry for the confusion.  My really old Lyman reloading manual shows anywhere from 2.0 grains to 3.5 grains of Bullseye for a 158 cast bullet.  I have tried 2.7 and it a nice light target load.

cdrt wrote:

orpheoet wrote:

cdrt wrote:

orpheoet wrote:

james r chapman wrote:There's several threads on .38 distinguished loads that might help you.

I don't think I've seen the hollow point mentioned.

For the NRA DR program, it's only round nose and semi-wadcutters.  HP's are not legal AFAIK.

I'm just looking for any info on safe loads for centerfire use. I just have no idea what to do with these!

Oh, okay, sorry for the confusion.  My really old Lyman reloading manual shows anywhere from 2.0 grains to 3.5 grains of Bullseye for a 158 cast bullet.  I have tried 2.7 and it a nice light target load.

My concern is the bullet might sit farther into the case. I just don't want pressure problems caused by it. I was hoping someone had loaded these. I guess I'll just start low?

Interesting, I haven't seen those before, I load my .38's SWC to 2.9 of WST.  How much longer is the body of the bullet compared to a non-HP SWC.  If it's much longer you may want to start lower than 2.9.

- Dave

orpheoet wrote:

cdrt wrote:

orpheoet wrote:

cdrt wrote:

orpheoet wrote:

james r chapman wrote:There's several threads on .38 distinguished loads that might help you.

I don't think I've seen the hollow point mentioned.

For the NRA DR program, it's only round nose and semi-wadcutters.  HP's are not legal AFAIK.

I'm just looking for any info on safe loads for centerfire use. I just have no idea what to do with these!

Oh, okay, sorry for the confusion.  My really old Lyman reloading manual shows anywhere from 2.0 grains to 3.5 grains of Bullseye for a 158 cast bullet.  I have tried 2.7 and it a nice light target load.

My concern is the bullet might sit farther into the case. I just don't want pressure problems caused by it. I was hoping someone had loaded these. I guess I'll just start low?

They would not be any deeper than a 148 HBWC.  I don't think you'll see any pressure problems.

3.8 231 or hp38. I think that is Zero s load. Speer and hornady both make one. Great defense bull in small 38 guns.

Not been available from anyone for a while. Other styles getting all the machine time.

try looking here also..

http://www.reloadammo.com/38loads.htm

That's interesting that 3.8 grains of HP38 might be the Zero factory load.  I've found 3.9 grains very, very accurate in my guns.  See the target on the left.  1.35" at 50 yards.
Dave

Magnusbullets wrote:3.8 231 or hp38. I think that is Zero s load. 

I assumed it was 700x. Never pulled a bullet, but the bench and the gun were covered with little yellow flakes.

rreid wrote:

Magnusbullets wrote:3.8 231 or hp38. I think that is Zero s load. 

I assumed it was 700x. Never pulled a bullet, but the bench and the gun were covered with little yellow flakes.

Could it have been WST?

orpheoet wrote:
My concern is the bullet might sit farther into the case. I just don't want pressure problems caused by it. I was hoping someone had loaded these. I guess I'll just start low?

With the small space taken up with fast powders, and the fairly large volume of the 38spc cartage, the little bit extra its seated in is really not going to make a huge difference. Look up target loads for a 158 gr lead projectile, and also the 148gr wadcutters. Normally only a tiny bit different. Start low and work up.

rreid wrote:

Magnusbullets wrote:3.8 231 or hp38. I think that is Zero s load. 

I assumed it was 700x. Never pulled a bullet, but the bench and the gun were covered with little yellow flakes.

They use 700X for 185 jhp 45 loads. I have that from reliable source.
Jon