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Post by Magload Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:59 pm

I shot the Zero 125gr JHPs today with 4.3gr of WST.  I have no idea how they grouped as I can't see the iron sights. Will need to wait for the dot to group test.  Gun ran fine but wasn't locking back on last round.  I installed a 9lb recoil spring this evening but also dropped the charge to 4.1 WST and will take the Labradar tomorrow.  The 4.3 was a little snapper then I wanted but then I have no experience with a 38 Super.  I don't mind snappy as I shoot Major Power Factor with 9mm.  Don
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Post by LenV Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:40 pm

I wonder if the correct slide stop is installed. I can imagine RIA putting a .45 part in its place. Just guessing here.
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Post by dronning Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:12 am

LenV wrote:I wonder if the correct slide stop is installed. I can imagine RIA putting a .45 part in its place. Just guessing here.
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Post by Magload Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:20 am

LenV wrote:I wonder if the correct slide stop is installed. I can imagine RIA putting a .45 part in its place. Just guessing here.
I think they probably got it right as with the Factory +P loads it locked back fine.  I was shooting reduced loads yesterday and I noticed from another post that was giving results of lower charges with different recoil springs that lock back was a problem.  I will see what happens today with the even lower loads and a 9lb spring.  I will need to switch to cast bullets if I am going to shoot this gun much the JHPs cost twice as much.  Don
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Post by Gary Wells Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:29 am

Don:
Are you running a Shok-Buff in that gun?

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Post by Magload Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:42 am

Gary Wells wrote:Don:
Are you running a Shok-Buff in that gun?
No Gary it is just as it came from the factory.  Due to the fact that the only 38 Super loads I could find in town were +P the gun only has 15 of those through it a 10 of my reloads.  I am all set up now to reload 38 Super but those 15 once fires was all the brass I had.  The new Starline came in late yesterday.  I should not judge a gun that only has 25 rounds through it but now as soon as I can decide on the load I will start breaking it in.  Also need cast bullets to save some mone and keep these Zero JHPs for the long line.  BTW I do have some of those buffers but have never used them.  Too many fore and against posted here.  Don
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Post by jglenn21 Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:11 am

just for a frame of reference,  I run a 12 lbs ISMI recoil spring in my 38 super EIC pistol...Run fairly light loads of BE with 115 and 124 XTPs.
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Post by Allgoodhits Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:47 pm

Magload wrote:
Gary Wells wrote:Don:
Are you running a Shok-Buff in that gun?
No Gary it is just as it came from the factory.  Due to the fact that the only 38 Super loads I could find in town were +P the gun only has 15 of those through it a 10 of my reloads.  I am all set up now to reload 38 Super but those 15 once fires was all the brass I had.  The new Starline came in late yesterday.  I should not judge a gun that only has 25 rounds through it but now as soon as I can decide on the load I will start breaking it in.  Also need cast bullets to save some mone and keep these Zero JHPs for the long line.  BTW I do have some of those buffers but have never used them.  Too many fore and against posted here.  Don

Try www.bayoubullets.net . Very good, value priced, quick delivery bullets. I like the 120 or 124 gr TCG bullet in 9mm for 9mm or .38 Super. They also have an excellent .45 185 gr SWC. The .45 I load with either 3.8 Clays, 4.0 WST or 4.2 N310 at 1.235". The .38 Super load is 4.5 WST at 1.240 +/-. All of these will shoot under 2" at 50 yds with quality gun, skill set.
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Post by Magload Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:52 pm

Gun ran great today with the 9lb spring and the 4.1gr WST.  Checked with my Labradar and was still getting 980 fps avg.  i am thinking I am wanting to get that down to around 850 to 900 but have no experence with the 38 Super so that maybe to low.  I will use these JHPs for LL if the gun preforms ok.  It is all kind of a waste of time till I can check groups at 50yds.  Don
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Post by S148 Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:33 pm

For a very accurate and very inexpensive jacketed bullet, look at RMR's 124 FMJ FP bullet. It's only a little more expensive than lead, and has been very accurate in my 9mm and 38 Super Kart barrels. 

https://rmrbullets.com/shop/bullets-for-reloading/bullets-for-reloading-9mm-355-12/9mm-124-gr-rmr-fmj-flat-nose-new-made-right-here-at-rmr/?v=7516fd43adaa

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