Electronic Hearing Protection
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CR10X
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UtahDave
mikemyers
JIMPGOV
willnewton
john bickar
KenO
Magload
Jack H
BE Mike
joem5636
Eddie 500
Multiracer
SonOfAGun
jmdavis
Aprilian
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Electronic Hearing Protection
Need recommendations. Thanks!
xmastershooter- Posts : 256
Join date : 2011-06-10
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
I bought the Peltor Sport tactical 500 in May and like them. I wear plugs under them and can still raise the electronic volume to hear conversations. They have bluetooth, I mow the grass with them while listening to music from my phone and have even taken a phone call on them (the other person said my voice was clear). The cups seal well over glasses frames.
My one disappointment is the reverb software for indoor ranges doesn't work as well as I had hoped (and they had advertised).
My one disappointment is the reverb software for indoor ranges doesn't work as well as I had hoped (and they had advertised).
Aprilian- Posts : 987
Join date : 2016-05-13
Location : Minnesota
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
You are wearing plugs as well, right?
I have used the Howard Leight Impact Pro and the Peltor Sport. They both work. But the Howard Leight broke after a few months and required me to jury rig a fix. I have had the Peltor since 2010.
All of that being said, I don't wear either these days. I bought a set of David Clark 19A passive muffs. Yes, it's not always easy to hear, particularly soft talkers, but I know that I am protecting my hearing as well as I can. I also wear fitted plugs from CeCa at Camp Perry (the kind with filters) with the 19A's.
If I were going to wear the electronic muffs regularly. I would probably go with the Peltor. The issue is that glasses frames will lead to some inefficiency. But they provide good protection, last a long time, and are dependable.
That's all I know at this point.
I have used the Howard Leight Impact Pro and the Peltor Sport. They both work. But the Howard Leight broke after a few months and required me to jury rig a fix. I have had the Peltor since 2010.
All of that being said, I don't wear either these days. I bought a set of David Clark 19A passive muffs. Yes, it's not always easy to hear, particularly soft talkers, but I know that I am protecting my hearing as well as I can. I also wear fitted plugs from CeCa at Camp Perry (the kind with filters) with the 19A's.
If I were going to wear the electronic muffs regularly. I would probably go with the Peltor. The issue is that glasses frames will lead to some inefficiency. But they provide good protection, last a long time, and are dependable.
That's all I know at this point.
jmdavis- Posts : 1409
Join date : 2012-03-23
Location : Virginia
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
Good topic. I've been researching the Howard Leight compared to the Walker's Game Ear Razor Slim. Both on Amazon at similar street price, within $5 of each other. Some reviews by users that have owned both give the nod to the Walker's. Hope to get more first hand comparisons.
SonOfAGun- Posts : 172
Join date : 2017-08-12
Location : Midwest
Howard Leight
I use these, in less than one year the foam is breaking down and becoming compressed inside the vinyl muff ear ring.
They still operate I just feel the end is near for the foam.
They still operate I just feel the end is near for the foam.
Multiracer- Posts : 975
Join date : 2017-03-15
Location : North Ohio
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
The best I've found is the Peltor Tactical Pro. NRR 26 dB. What I like most beside the high level of attenuation, is that they don't completely mute the sound when a loud sound is detected. They just lower the level of the sound. What I like least is the price, but it's like optics; you get what you pay for.
I also have the gel sealing rings which help create a better seal when wearing glasses.
I also have the gel sealing rings which help create a better seal when wearing glasses.
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Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
I have a pair of MSA Supreme. At outdoor ranges you can hear the wind blow but still cancels out the bang of the pistol/rifle. In a small indoor range the report of the gun blast is more pronounced. I like em overall but they are pricey at $295 American.
Eddie 500- Posts : 46
Join date : 2015-11-02
Location : Pascack Valley
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
Thanks for the feedback. I'm starting to do RSO duty for my club and cost would not be a factor for good electronic hearing protection. I just don't want to buy several just to try out. More replies would be greatly appreciated. Thank again!
xmastershooter- Posts : 256
Join date : 2011-06-10
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
I have an ancient pair of MSA Sordins that work wonderfully. Only problem has been batteries -- I replaced the original with a Radio Shack and just keep going.
joem5636- Posts : 95
Join date : 2011-06-11
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
I have a couple of pair of Howard Leight Impact Sport ear protectors. They are my first venture into e-muffs. They have an NRR of 22. They are hard to beat for (shop around) $35.00. I use ear plugs under them. They take AAA batteries that seem to have a decent life. Since you said money was no object, I'd look at the Pro Ears TAC Slim Gold. They have an NRR of 28 and auto shut off. I looked hard at them before I went with the more affordable Howard Leight Impact Sport ear protectors. The MSA Sordin have some good reviews, but with an NRR of only 18, I think they are overpriced. The more expensive e-muffs seem to allow the wearer to have some directional sensing. I don't see that need in a range environment. It would prove useful in a combat or hunting environment.
BE Mike- Posts : 2503
Join date : 2011-07-29
Location : Indiana
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
I do not know the quality involved but I would check and avoid hearing muffs that use odd size batteries. AAA only for me.
Jack H- Posts : 2679
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 75
Location : Oregon
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
Well I bought a set of EtyMotic GunSport Pro. Spent a good deal on them but I am not real pleased with them. I still have to put my Howard Leight over them depending what other people are shooting indoors. When someone is shooting a 308 that doesn't help a lot. Don
Magload- Posts : 1173
Join date : 2016-11-18
Age : 77
Location : NE Florida
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
Hi Jim, what are the odds??? Presently, I also use David Clark muffs along with CeCa fitted plugs. Foam plugs seal the best but are a hassle to remove in order to hear and then put back in. I believe the Clarks are used in the military. What are "filters" with the fitted plugs?jimdavis wrote:All of that being said, I don't wear either these days. I bought a set of David Clark 19A passive muffs. Yes, it's not always easy to hear, particularly soft talkers, but I know that I am protecting my hearing as well as I can. I also wear fitted plugs from CeCa at Camp Perry (the kind with filters) with the 19A's
xmastershooter- Posts : 256
Join date : 2011-06-10
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
"Foam plugs seal the best but are a hassle to remove in order to hear and then put back in"
There are foam plugs that you don't have to roll, just push in, and pull to take out. I love these under my muffs, and they are 31NRR.
https://www.earplugstore.com/e-a-r-push-ins-softouch-earplugs-bx.html You can get them anywhere, that was the first that came up on my search. I don't remember where I got mine, but the price really varies, so shop around.
There are foam plugs that you don't have to roll, just push in, and pull to take out. I love these under my muffs, and they are 31NRR.
https://www.earplugstore.com/e-a-r-push-ins-softouch-earplugs-bx.html You can get them anywhere, that was the first that came up on my search. I don't remember where I got mine, but the price really varies, so shop around.
KenO- Posts : 182
Join date : 2011-06-14
Age : 77
Location : Northern Lower Michigan/Florida winter
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
Thanks KenO
Found this new product in SSUSA. Any comments or experience using it?
https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2017/10/30/review-3m-peltor-tep-100-tactical-electronic-ambient-listening-earplugs/
Found this new product in SSUSA. Any comments or experience using it?
https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2017/10/30/review-3m-peltor-tep-100-tactical-electronic-ambient-listening-earplugs/
xmastershooter- Posts : 256
Join date : 2011-06-10
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
Hi Norman,
I recently bought the Peltor RangeGuard and wore them last night while serving as range master for league. It was an interesting experience.
I had hoped that the muffs themselves would attenuate gunshots when the amplification was turned on but they do not, not sufficiently even for .22. I found that it was best to wear them over earplugs and turn the amplification off during active firing periods and then turn it on when I needed to hear things but there was still a chance of live fire (e.g., towards the end of firing periods).
I recently bought the Peltor RangeGuard and wore them last night while serving as range master for league. It was an interesting experience.
I had hoped that the muffs themselves would attenuate gunshots when the amplification was turned on but they do not, not sufficiently even for .22. I found that it was best to wear them over earplugs and turn the amplification off during active firing periods and then turn it on when I needed to hear things but there was still a chance of live fire (e.g., towards the end of firing periods).
john bickar- Posts : 2227
Join date : 2011-07-09
Age : 100
Location : Menlo Park, CA
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
My Howard Leight Impact Pro electronic muffs are OK under some circumstances.
I find that part of the gunshot is amplified for the briefest time, resulting in very mild ringing during shooting witha group of folks, even though it does not sound loud in my ear. I get zero ear ringing when they are turned off. I think the combo of multiple nearby gunshots and a partial amplification through the muffs is enough to just hit the the threshold to cause ringing.
I think you should wear plugs if using these muffs electronically all the time.
They are well padded, with a NRR of 30. I do not wear plugs under them for target pistol shooting, as they work very well when not turned on. They also fit well, so I have not tried replacing them. They work well when turned on too, if I need to listen to a buddy talk on the range, but I rarely activate them otherwise.
If there is a bonus that I like, it is being able to listen to BE range command intros played from my phone without disturbing others.
I find that part of the gunshot is amplified for the briefest time, resulting in very mild ringing during shooting witha group of folks, even though it does not sound loud in my ear. I get zero ear ringing when they are turned off. I think the combo of multiple nearby gunshots and a partial amplification through the muffs is enough to just hit the the threshold to cause ringing.
I think you should wear plugs if using these muffs electronically all the time.
They are well padded, with a NRR of 30. I do not wear plugs under them for target pistol shooting, as they work very well when not turned on. They also fit well, so I have not tried replacing them. They work well when turned on too, if I need to listen to a buddy talk on the range, but I rarely activate them otherwise.
If there is a bonus that I like, it is being able to listen to BE range command intros played from my phone without disturbing others.
willnewton- Admin
- Posts : 1102
Join date : 2016-07-24
Location : NC
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
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JIMPGOV- Posts : 651
Join date : 2011-09-27
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
Suggestion:
Go to this page, and start selecting: http://www.howardleight.com/selector
If you want the best protection, one of them has a rating of 30.
I think this is what I bought:
https://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-Amplification-Electronic-R-01902/dp/B007BGSI5U
Go to this page, and start selecting: http://www.howardleight.com/selector
If you want the best protection, one of them has a rating of 30.
I think this is what I bought:
https://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-Amplification-Electronic-R-01902/dp/B007BGSI5U
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
Join date : 2016-07-26
Age : 80
Location : South Florida, and India
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
Yep! these work very well. I'm an RO and I don't need ear plugs with them but I do avoid standing near the 7mm Mags with muzzle brakes. I have several other brands and they don't get used.
Dave
Dave
UtahDave- Posts : 33
Join date : 2011-11-01
Age : 78
Location : Utah
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
+1 I want the highest NRR I can get. These are very comfortable and the electronics work very well.mikemyers wrote:Suggestion:
Go to this page, and start selecting: http://www.howardleight.com/selector
If you want the best protection, one of them has a rating of 30.
I think this is what I bought:
https://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-Amplification-Electronic-R-01902/dp/B007BGSI5U
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
And I wear muffs and ear plugs every time! Even for .22. I'd rather miss hearing something than miss hearing anything.
CR
CR
CR10X- Posts : 1777
Join date : 2011-06-17
Location : NC
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
Wife and I each use Peltor 300. One began to eat standard batteries and 3M sent us mailing label to return for refund. . . . and then replaced with same from Amazon. Other one is still on first set of batteries. I use foam ear plugs in addition to Peltor 300. 300 is easy to deal with, but indoors I need a bit more attenuation. Down-side is expense.
Mac2- Posts : 188
Join date : 2015-04-09
Location : LP Michigan
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
CR10X wrote:And I wear muffs and ear plugs every time! Even for .22. I'd rather miss hearing something than miss hearing anything.
CR
+1. Also, for me, I look for audio input. This allows me to play the match commands (...ready on the firing line....) during sustained fire practice. I currently have Pro Gold which I would not recommend. I intend to replace them with the Peltor Sport Tactical 100 and replace the foam ear pads with the gel ear pads. I have a non-electronic Peltor with the gel ear pads and the gel covers more of my ear and is better sealing.
joy2shoot- Posts : 570
Join date : 2014-08-02
Location : North Carolina
Re: Electronic Hearing Protection
I have these and they are for sure pretty quiet.mikemyers wrote:Suggestion:
Go to this page, and start selecting: http://www.howardleight.com/selector
If you want the best protection, one of them has a rating of 30.
I think this is what I bought:
https://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-Amplification-Electronic-R-01902/dp/B007BGSI5U
I also have a set of Walkers and the Walkers have considerably more amplification than the HL,s.
I use foam ear plugs with them and can barely hear anything with the HL's volume all the way up, but hear voice commands much better when using the Walkers.
Another thing is that wearing foam ear plugs as well made a difference in my shooting. Someone shooting next to me used to sometimes disturb me, but with ear plugs and headsets on I no longer even notice that anyone is there.
DA/SA- Posts : 1426
Join date : 2017-10-09
Age : 68
Location : Southeast Florida
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