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Kimber as base gun for bullseye?

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Post by JNW1 2/11/2018, 8:56 pm

I want a really accurate 9mm 1911 with a reflex red dot optic on it.  Specifically, I want a slide that can take multiple brands of optics like Glock’s MOS or the M&P CORE.  The only options out there are an STI for $2300 or a new Kimber KHX for $1000.  I want to put a reflex sight on it because it will make it more useful for games other than bullseye, of which there is very little where I live.  I figure if I need to I will change out the ignition system for a better trigger pull and have a Kart barrel and bushing installed on the Kimber.  My question is will the Kimber be a good enough jumping off point to wind up with a really accurate and reliable pistol?

http://www.kimberamerica.com/khx-custom-or-2/

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Post by Sc0 2/11/2018, 9:15 pm

If you're tossing most of the factory stuff, might as well start with a bare frame and build up? Caspian frame and the Accuracy X multisight slide; https://accuracyx.com/multi-sight-system/

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Post by dronning 2/11/2018, 9:47 pm

Personally I think you would be better off starting with a Springfield RO and mounting a RRA Bullseye rib which comes with irons plus you can mount any dot on it.  The RO has proven itself as a great value/starting point for a precision gun.

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Post by Jon Eulette 2/11/2018, 10:37 pm

Most gunsmiths don't care for Kimbers. But they can be built into good accurate pistols. Personal choice is really what we're dealing with. I do recommend Caspian or similiar build over a Kimber though.
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Post by JNW1 2/11/2018, 11:34 pm

The main reason I’m looking at the Kimber is because of its optics ready slide.  I don’t like the Accuracy X system - the optic sits up higher than I would like.  Might as well just put an EGW plate in the rear sight dovetail.  I had heard that Kimber frames were consistent with their dimensions being true to spec.  I also like the radius of the Kimber beavertail better than the Springfield - I can get a bit higher grip.  If money was no object I would just have a pistol built from scratch, but I do have a financial limit.  I’d have to sell some other stuff to get the STI, which is a very nice gun, but don’t know if it is accurate enough.
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Post by JNW1 2/12/2018, 12:26 am

Curious, what is it about Kimbers that gunsmiths don’t like?

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Post by Jon Eulette 2/12/2018, 12:34 am

Tolerances, grip safety/firing pin stop design, exterior coating/finish on pistol. Lotta crud to deal with: extra work.
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Post by scheibenpistole 2/12/2018, 1:25 am

I got a Kimber Gold Match when they first came out.  Dave Salyer tightened it up a bit, and it's been great!  Still has the original barrel, sights, etc.
I added a Videki short trigger, and an arched mainspring housing.  That's it.
Sad to hear they have let things slide...

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Post by JNW1 2/12/2018, 8:50 am

For what it’s worth the Kimber I’m looking at does not have the firing pin safety.

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Post by JKR 2/12/2018, 9:41 am

I did some work with an old Kimber Super Match II that I gave my son for Christmas. It had the Swartz style safety which makes you pay a little more attention during assembly but has no affect on the trigger pull. I did install a new sear and barrel bushing. The pistol locked up tight and shot great. It will give him a good start as a bullseye shooter.

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Post by LenV 2/12/2018, 11:05 pm

I have a couple. I think they worked out pretty good. Lot's of playing with the GMII. Nothing to do but shoot it for the Limited.

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Post by scheibenpistole 2/13/2018, 2:46 am

As an addendum to my above post:
When Dave Salyer worked on mine, I had already fitted the arched mainspring housing and stoned the sear and hammer.  Dave just tightened it up a little and fitted an NM bushing.  
He said that was all it needed.  He provided a nice 50 yd target that he shot (clean 100) offhand.
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