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Post by sbtzc Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:29 am

As the title says,...

Using a CZ 75b single action. Maybe 124gr bullets for the slow fast 1:9.7 twist? I have lots of W231.

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Post by Wobbley Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:44 am

Try 115 gr and 5.0 - 5.4 CFEPistol.
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Post by Sc0 Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:54 am

I have 115gr jacketed 4.2-4.8gr W231 at 1.15oal.
Problem with the slow twist is that the bullets need to go fast.

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Post by Wmvdg123 Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:01 pm

Many people feel Hornady 115 xtp bullets are the most accurate 9mm bullet. I like to load it with 4.4 grains vv n340 at 1.075 inch COAL. You could try different coals and then do a powder work up to optimize accuracy for your gun.

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Post by JIMPGOV Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:12 pm

3.4 GR 231,147GR XTP, AOL 1.142" FOR 50 YD, 3.2GR 147GR HORNADY FMJ FOR 25YDS, AOL 1.142".  SHOOTS GOOD , MILD RECOIL.JP

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Post by PhillySoldier Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:57 am

Wobbley wrote:Try 115 gr and 5.0 - 5.4 CFEPistol.

In ransom rest testing my pistol w 1:10 twist did best with the 115g projectiles.

I also agree with the above quote in that CFE seems to have done the best for me out of any powders I tested.

Lastly for projectiles I would suggest taking a look at Hornady HAP's and XTP's. The HAP's are a non expanding hollow point which can be found for the same price as the FMJ's. Since they are the same profile as the XTP expandable hollow points you wont have a difference in shooting or loading between your training and defense rounds.

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Post by james r chapman Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:33 pm

115 hap/xtp 6.1-6.3 Power Pistol.
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Post by LenV Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:25 pm

james r chapman wrote:115 hap/xtp 6.1-6.3 Power Pistol.
What he said..
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Post by james r chapman Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:55 pm

LenV wrote:
james r chapman wrote:115 hap/xtp 6.1-6.3 Power Pistol.
What he said..

I could have just posted that pic of your loaded ammo shelf! Lol
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Post by sbtzc Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:21 pm

OK, I'm confused. Nothing new. Kind of stating the obvious.

A 1:9.7 twist is relatively fast. Correct?

Fast twist rates stabilize heavier projectiles better than lighter ones. Correct?

Thus, JIMPGOV's recommendation of 147gr. Hornadys makes sense to me.

So, please help me understand the recommendations for 115gr. projectiles.



BTW: I like the looks of these ---> https://www.precisiondelta.com/products/9mm-147gr-fmj-flat-point/
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Post by james r chapman Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:20 pm

lets try this again. credit to Bob Marvel.

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Post by sbtzc Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:07 pm

All righty than. I guess I've been told. scratch
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Post by markgrabowski Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:04 pm

James, appears the link you embedded is now broken. Can you post it again?
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Post by james r chapman Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:03 pm

markgrabowski wrote:James, appears the link you embedded is now broken. Can you post it again?
Thanks
the pictures not showing up???
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Post by David R Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:17 pm

I was shooting 115 HAP with 5.0 CFE pistol. Crony said 100 fps ES, so I tried Titegroup. 4.0 TG gave me the same AV 1025 with an ES of less than 30. Same accuracy. Don't know the twist of my PM-9.

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Post by swehrman Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:35 pm

james r chapman wrote:the pictures not showing up???

No, it's not showing up.

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