Powder Scale ?
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Powder Scale ?
So, I'm loading 32 S&W Long with PB shotgun powder (~ 2.0 grains) Using an RCBS uniflow powder measure, I'm seeing variations of a tenth of a grain up or down occasionally. PB is a small flake powder very similar in appearance to Bullseye. I'm wondering if there's a better powder measure than what I'm currently using ? (especially considering the very small charges I'm throwing).
cuslog- Posts : 28
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Re: Powder Scale ?
Sure there is. LOL
https://ce-products.myshopify.com/products/a-d-fx-120i-scale-autotrickler-v2-autothrow-combo
Bill
https://ce-products.myshopify.com/products/a-d-fx-120i-scale-autotrickler-v2-autothrow-combo
Bill
messenger- Posts : 1035
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Location : North Carolina
Re: Powder Scale ?
Hello cuslog,
Herrell's Precision "Schuetzen/Pistol" powder measures.... http://harrellsprec.com/index.php/products/schuetzen-pistol-measure ....
I have two and they meter all granular sizes and types accurately.
Jim
Herrell's Precision "Schuetzen/Pistol" powder measures.... http://harrellsprec.com/index.php/products/schuetzen-pistol-measure ....
I have two and they meter all granular sizes and types accurately.
Jim
spursnguns- Posts : 611
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Re: Powder Scale ?
spursnguns wrote:Hello cuslog,
Herrell's Precision "Schuetzen/Pistol" powder measures.... http://harrellsprec.com/index.php/products/schuetzen-pistol-measure ....
I have two and they meter all granular sizes and types accurately.
Jim
Will they measure less than two grains?
Bill
messenger- Posts : 1035
Join date : 2011-06-18
Location : North Carolina
Re: Powder Scale ?
Hello Bill,
I never go that light so you made me look. No; nothing lower than 2.0 grains.
Jim
I never go that light so you made me look. No; nothing lower than 2.0 grains.
Jim
spursnguns- Posts : 611
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Age : 66
Location : Nampa, Idaho
Re: Powder Scale ?
Greetings,
I have a Redding BR-30 measure with the Pistol insert.
Works rather well with the small charges.
I used to shoot PB, as well. I found that it metered quite well with my Star loader.
Cheers,
Dave
I have a Redding BR-30 measure with the Pistol insert.
Works rather well with the small charges.
I used to shoot PB, as well. I found that it metered quite well with my Star loader.
Cheers,
Dave
fc60- Posts : 1459
Join date : 2011-06-11
Location : South Prairie, WA 98385
Re: Powder Scale ?
I use my ChargeMaster for such loads. With such small charges, it doesn't really get out of trickler speed.
You can take and file down a .22 LR case to get a charge just below what you want and use it as a dipper (solder or epoxy a paper clip as a handle) and then trickle up to what you want (the CM will do so with just a press of the trickle button).
You can take and file down a .22 LR case to get a charge just below what you want and use it as a dipper (solder or epoxy a paper clip as a handle) and then trickle up to what you want (the CM will do so with just a press of the trickle button).
noylj- Posts : 433
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Re: Powder Scale ?
With all due respect, have you cleaned the discharge chute, rotor, adjustment screw face and yoke? Do you have a 100 gr rotor or the 50 gr rotor? My Uniflow is spot on with Titegroup, BE-86 and CFE Pistol. All 3 are small flake powders.
Bigtrout- Posts : 417
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Location : Richmond, VT
Re: Powder Scale ?
I'm getting ready for loading 32 S&W and have been testing my Hornady LNL AP powder measure. With WST it is surprisingly consistent with drops in the range of 1.8 grains, I did several drops with it and measured with my RCBS digital scale and they were right on time and time again. My RCBS chargemaster doesn't handle small powers really well.
zanemoseley- Posts : 2688
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Re: Powder Scale ?
Big:Bigtrout wrote:With all due respect, have you cleaned the discharge chute, rotor, adjustment screw face and yoke? Do you have a 100 gr rotor or the 50 gr rotor? My Uniflow is spot on with Titegroup, BE-86 and CFE Pistol. All 3 are small flake powders.
Yes, I do have the small rotor in it -- cleaning all the insides might prove worthwhile.
I have wondered about my scale(s) too. I have a Lyman 1500 digital and an older RCBS beam type -- maybe a tenth of a grain resolution is simply beyond their capabilities ?
cuslog- Posts : 28
Join date : 2018-04-26
Location : Calgary, Alberta
Re: Powder Scale ?
PB - wow! They don't make that anymore. I have used both the Lee Micro-disk and the Lee Auto-drum powder measures, and they both work well and are reasonable cost. The Micro-disk was designed especially for situations like yours.
oldsalt444- Posts : 288
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Re: Powder Scale ?
cuslog, Do you use check weights? Try both scales with them. 1 gr to 5 gr should cover your range.
Bigtrout- Posts : 417
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Location : Richmond, VT
Re: Powder Scale ?
Greetings,
If you are weighing individual charges, you are wasting your time.
Throw ten charges with a normal loading cadence. Then weight all ten and divide by ten.
Repeat the above several times. If you are metering accurately, all ten charges will weigh +/- 0.2 grains.
i.e. Target weight of 2.0 grains. Ten charges should consistently weigh 19.8-20.2 grains.
Cheers,
Dave
If you are weighing individual charges, you are wasting your time.
Throw ten charges with a normal loading cadence. Then weight all ten and divide by ten.
Repeat the above several times. If you are metering accurately, all ten charges will weigh +/- 0.2 grains.
i.e. Target weight of 2.0 grains. Ten charges should consistently weigh 19.8-20.2 grains.
Cheers,
Dave
fc60- Posts : 1459
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Location : South Prairie, WA 98385
Re: Powder Scale ?
+1
Weighing charges is a waste of time. This isn't bench rest.
Weighing charges is a waste of time. This isn't bench rest.
Dr.Don- Posts : 816
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Re: Powder Scale ?
The question was to get better powder throw consistency regardless of what sort of shooting is done If his scales are lying to him that would be good to know. Also weighing a 10-throw bulk may not give you a good handle on throw-to-throw consistency. You can't be too anal when reloading; at least I can't. FWIW.Dr.Don wrote:+1
Weighing charges is a waste of time. This isn't bench rest.
Bigtrout- Posts : 417
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Re: Powder Scale ?
Yeah, I quit shooting pistol for ~25 years, thought I'd give it a go once more -- using up some of the old powder bought back in the 80's probably. Doesn't smell bad, not clumping, goes bang !oldsalt444 wrote:PB - wow! They don't make that anymore. I have used both the Lee Micro-disk and the Lee Auto-drum powder measures, and they both work well and are reasonable cost. The Micro-disk was designed especially for situations like yours.
I've got about a 30 year old pound of bullseye to burn through too. At 2.0 grain charges, it takes a bit of shooting to go through a pound !
Maybe stale powder is my problem (more like older eyes and an old rotator cuff injury).
cuslog- Posts : 28
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Location : Calgary, Alberta
Powder Scale
Hi, Try using a baffle in the measure to throw small charges, I find there is better consistancy when there is no weight on the rotor. Capri.
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