Powder scale choices
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Powder scale choices
What kind of digital scale do you use to measure powder, etc in reloading?
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Val
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valbern67- Posts : 278
Join date : 2018-09-04
Location : Norman, OK
Re: Powder scale choices
GemPro 250. But there are others. The key with the electronic scales is to let it warm and stabilize for at least a half hour and to calibrate often.
Wobbley- Admin
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I've read about the gempro but the reviews held me back from buying. I have a RCBS chargemaster, I bought it for loading rifle cartridges but the scale seems very consistent so I use it for checking pistol drops. My first scale is a small Frankford Arsenal digital which is ok but tends to float sometimes,
Whichever scale you buy I suggest averaging several drops to get a more accurate average of your drop. For instance if you want a 4.0 grain drop I would put 5 drops in a pan and see if it's 20.0. This will give you a more accurate picture and allow you to find time your drop when you're limited to scales with scales with only a .1 grain resolution.
Whichever scale you buy I suggest averaging several drops to get a more accurate average of your drop. For instance if you want a 4.0 grain drop I would put 5 drops in a pan and see if it's 20.0. This will give you a more accurate picture and allow you to find time your drop when you're limited to scales with scales with only a .1 grain resolution.
zanemoseley- Posts : 2688
Join date : 2015-07-11
Location : Cookeville, TN
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Gempro 250
mspingeld- Admin
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So the Gempro 250 only gets 3.5 stars on Amazon, of those of you that use it what do you attribute such bad reviews to.
zanemoseley- Posts : 2688
Join date : 2015-07-11
Location : Cookeville, TN
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My Gempro has never lied to me and is extremely repeatable.
I had one fail within the warranty period and received a new one with a phone call and proof of purchase.
I started with a Frankford Arsenal, but never really trusted it, as the repeatability wasn't so good. I soon after purchased the Gempro.
I had one fail within the warranty period and received a new one with a phone call and proof of purchase.
I started with a Frankford Arsenal, but never really trusted it, as the repeatability wasn't so good. I soon after purchased the Gempro.
DA/SA- Posts : 1506
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I too started out with a cheaper model but it was inconsistent. The Gempro is consistent. Consistency is key.
mspingeld- Admin
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Truthfully I want a Sartorius scale with one of these auto trickle setups. Its so easy it almost takes the fun out of rifle reloading.... Almost..
https://www.autotrickler.com/auto-trickler.html
https://www.autotrickler.com/auto-trickler.html
zanemoseley- Posts : 2688
Join date : 2015-07-11
Location : Cookeville, TN
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I bought a Sartorius a few years ago for $400. It is extremely accurate out to .02 gr. It is affected by fluorescent lights. I had to change my overhead light in my shop to LED's. RCBS and Dillon are good but I wanted something that would read out to 100ths not just tenths. I had a Lymann but it wouldn't hold zero for beans.
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messenger- Posts : 1035
Join date : 2011-06-18
Location : North Carolina
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Which model Sartorius did you get?
zanemoseley- Posts : 2688
Join date : 2015-07-11
Location : Cookeville, TN
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I've been using a GemPro 250 for a few years now and have been very pleased with its performance.
shaky452- Posts : 43
Join date : 2012-03-13
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Call me cheap as I use a $20 model from AliExpress. It's only accurate to 0.1gr. I suppose it's comparable to a Frankford. My measure is a Lee Pro Auto Disk which has limited and coarse charge adjustments. I simply use the scale to confirm the cavities are throwing roughly what the book says. I always check a few drops before I start reloading, for safety. After that, I rely on the powder measure. Your needs may vary.
desben- Posts : 385
Join date : 2013-12-22
Location : Ontario, Canada
Re: Powder scale choices
+1 for GemPro 250.
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PhotoEscape- Admin
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The ChargeMaster Lite is Very Good unless you’re shooting 1000 yards.zanemoseley wrote:Truthfully I want a Sartorius scale with one of these auto trickle setups. Its so easy it almost takes the fun out of rifle reloading.... Almost..
https://www.autotrickler.com/auto-trickler.html
Wobbley- Admin
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Re: Powder scale choices
GemPro 250. I have no complaints. Just need to make sure it’s warmed up and calibrated
farmboy- Posts : 295
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Gempro250
james r chapman- Admin
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IMHO most people don't realize other electronics close by can mess with an electronic scale. Florescent lights can really do it. A freezer or fridge in the same room(basement or garage ect)zanemoseley wrote:So the Gempro 250 only gets 3.5 stars on Amazon, of those of you that use it what do you attribute such bad reviews to.
I also think most people just turn them on and start using them with out warming them up. No way to prove it of course but just my opinion.
farmboy- Posts : 295
Join date : 2012-10-04
Location : Wichita, KS
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zanemoseley wrote:Which model Sartorius did you get?
The only number I can find on it is AY123. It doesn't have the ability to be hooked up to anything electronic like the auto trickling system. I believe the system you see in the picture is as close as I will get to it.
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messenger- Posts : 1035
Join date : 2011-06-18
Location : North Carolina
Re: Powder scale choices
put your electronic scales on a separate circuit if you can.. Solved a lot of issues for me.. that along with letting it really warm up and settle
jglenn21- Posts : 2620
Join date : 2015-04-07
Age : 76
Location : monroe , ga
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The auto trickle web site recommends the A&D FX-120i which can be bought for $500 and weights down to .001 grams which is equivalent to .015 grains. For another $400 you can get the auto trickle setup added to it. That would be a hell of a setup for both long range rifle loads and checking pistol powder drops. Maybe a Christmas bonus will make it a reality. I've wanted a nice scientific scale for a while.
zanemoseley- Posts : 2688
Join date : 2015-07-11
Location : Cookeville, TN
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Well, I've been salivating for Sartorius Entris 64-1S for quite some time, - if you scroll down of this link, you'll understand why. https://scaleman.com/sartorius-entris64-1s-lab-balance.html This thing literally can detect a single granule of Varget or Reloder 16, which is roughly .02 of a grain. And I could care less of the Alexa, but would love to complement it with good trickler. Will still be salivating for a while. 1050 Super is higher on my wanna have list.
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+1 on the GemPro 250 and letting it warm up.
Looks like I will need to get some LED bulbs to replace my fluorescent bulbs.
Regarding a separate circuit (all the outlets in my room are on the same circuit), isn't there a type of surge/line protector the scale can be plugged into that will protect it from fluctuations/interferences from other devices on the same circuit?
Looks like I will need to get some LED bulbs to replace my fluorescent bulbs.
Regarding a separate circuit (all the outlets in my room are on the same circuit), isn't there a type of surge/line protector the scale can be plugged into that will protect it from fluctuations/interferences from other devices on the same circuit?
joy2shoot- Posts : 570
Join date : 2014-08-02
Location : North Carolina
Re: Powder scale choices
Joy2shoot, your best bet would be to install small UPS battery, something like this one - https://www.cdw.com/product/APCBack-UPS650VAUPS/2521885.
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I have a first gen RCBS chargemaster,
good tool, but really slow (I used it to measure 4064 for 30.06 when I was shooting garand matches)
I have a couple RCBS scales, and the only issue I had was being sure they are not near any airflow,
AC in the garage I used to have was 16' away, and it would mess with the scale when it came on,
good tool, but really slow (I used it to measure 4064 for 30.06 when I was shooting garand matches)
I have a couple RCBS scales, and the only issue I had was being sure they are not near any airflow,
AC in the garage I used to have was 16' away, and it would mess with the scale when it came on,
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Unfortunately the Gempro 250 is discontinued and not available any of the places I've looked.
I am contemplating getting a really good scale for a future project. I started looking but haven't decided. My top pick for a really good scale is:
LW Measurements HRB-224 on sale for $700 here.
This appears to be a really good price for a 0.1mg / 0.002gr resolution scale. I am sorely tempted to pull the trigger, even though I won't have time to start the project soon. Everything else in that range is $875 and up
Here are my top candidates so far with 1mg / 0.02gr resolution:
Ohaus YJ103 $200 or TAJ203 $320
Weigh South WBT-100 $280
Veritas S63 or S123 $285 or S203 $320
LW Measurements HRB-103 $290 or HRB-S-103 $310
Adam Equipment HCB 123 $339
Ohaus Scout SPX123 $365
I am contemplating getting a really good scale for a future project. I started looking but haven't decided. My top pick for a really good scale is:
LW Measurements HRB-224 on sale for $700 here.
This appears to be a really good price for a 0.1mg / 0.002gr resolution scale. I am sorely tempted to pull the trigger, even though I won't have time to start the project soon. Everything else in that range is $875 and up
Here are my top candidates so far with 1mg / 0.02gr resolution:
Ohaus YJ103 $200 or TAJ203 $320
Weigh South WBT-100 $280
Veritas S63 or S123 $285 or S203 $320
LW Measurements HRB-103 $290 or HRB-S-103 $310
Adam Equipment HCB 123 $339
Ohaus Scout SPX123 $365
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