Hi Standard serial numbers by Hi Standard location

I know this information is a available somewhere but I have yet been able to find it.

Looking for serial number range for pistols manufactured at the various Hi Standard mfg addresses.

Thanks.

Source - http://www.histandard.info/
Your best possible source for information is Mr. John Stimson, - he's very nice and always ready to share the knowledge of Hi Standard's data.
AP


Serial numbers

Regular Serial numbers - Highest serial number shipped for the year. Regular numbers began with 5,000 which shipped October 15, 1932.

Note the serial number research is a work in process and these numbers are the best estimates as of the revision data of this page. Although it appears that the guns were generally assembled in numerical sequence, the shipments were not and some guns remained in inventory for weeks, months, or even years between assembly and shipment. The only valid way to determine the shipping date is by researching the individual serial number in the factory records.

YEAR	Serial number		YEAR	Serial number		YEAR	Serial number		YEAR	Serial number		YEAR	Serial number
.	.		1940	70,715		1950	335,693		1960	1,147,641		1970	2,232,503
.	.		1941	91,986		1951	357,295		1961	1,224,652		1971	2,282,293
1932	5,102		1942	104,520		1952	406,852		1962	1,285,049		1972	2,356,207
1933	6,567		1943	115,423		1953	442,984		1963	1,351,908		1973	2,424,175
1934	8,313		1944	135,659		1954	475,186		1964	1,418,870		.	.
1935	11,651		1945	145,817		1955	508,613		1965	1,507,541		.	.
1936	18,751		1946	174,194		1956	652,405		1966	1,610,707		.	.
1937	30,026		1947	233,402		1957	777,559		1967	1,853,513		.	.
1938	39,430		1948	301,349		1958	913,111		1968	2,030,404		.	.
1939	50,619		1949	326,123		1959	1,044,802		1969	2,172,356		.	.

 

YEAR	Serial number	G prefix (5 digit)	G prefix (6 digit)	ML prefix (5 digit)	MLG prefix (5 digit)	SH prefix (5 digit)
1974	2,469,497 (1) 3,000,000	.	.	.	.	.
1975	(2) 2,500,810	(4) G 1,001 G 04,566	.	(9) ML 01,001 ML 06,747	.	.
1976	(3) 2,500,811	G 13,757	.	(10) ML 23,065	.	.
1977	.	(5) G 18,298	( G 160,000 G 162,590	(11) EH 0001 (12) ML 25,000 (13) ML 29,707	.	.
1978	.	(6) G 19,299 to G 19,319 & (7) G 20,000 G 20,223	.	(14) ML 29,708 ML 29,721 & (15) ML 30,000 ML 41,270	.	.
1979	.	.	.	ML 63,483	.	.
1980	.	.	.	ML 81,629	(18) MLG 20,224 MLG 20,408	.
1981	.	.	.	(16) ML 86,641 (17) ML 90,000	.	(19) SH 10,001 SH 18,446
1982	.	.	.	.	.	SH 25,964
1983	.	.	.	.	.	SH 31,558
1984	.	.	.	.	.	(20) SH 34,034

Notes:
1. 3,000,000 This 9211 Victor shipped 1 March, 1974
2. Last gun in regular series shipping in 1975 This 9247 Supermatic Trophy shipped 28 August, 1975.
3. Last serial number in regular series excluding the special Victor S/N 3,000,000 This 9329 Double Nine shipped 26 October, 1976.
4. First G prefix guns to assembly 8 July, 1975, packed 14, July, shipments began 21, July, 1975
5. Last? Leisure Group G prefix 12 Aug, 1977.
6. G 19,299 - G 19,319 are all 9201 Sport Kings 20 guns all shipped March 1978.
7. First High Standard Inc. G20,000 - G 20,105 (103 guns) are all 9244 Supermatic Citations. G 20,106 - G 20,233 (116 guns) all are 9201 Sport Kings
8. G six digit are all 9200 or 9201 Sport Kings Note right most digit is always a zero so the serial number increments by 10's not 1's 254 guns. One exception to      numbering is G 162,011. All shipped October 1978
9. First ML prefix serial number. to production 7/22/75, packed 7/26/75, shipped 7/25/75. Note records show MIL prefix from MIL 01,001 to MIL 01,099 and    ML from ML 01,100 on. This needs to be verified by observation of actual guns.
10. Last Hamden ML prefix 14 December, 1976
11. EH 00,001 9217 First East Hartford gun 16 June, 1977
12. First East Hartford ML prefix pistol. First shipments of ML prefix guns 17 June, 1977.
13. Last Leisure Group ML prefix 21 December 1977.
14. First pistols with ML prefix made for High Standard, Inc. Mixed production dates between 2 February, 1978 and 9 November, 1978 with one pistol   manufactured 16 February, 1980.
15. First pistols with ML prefix made for High Standard, Inc 21 March, 1978
16. Last regular ML prefix gun 15 September, 1981.
17. Gun is a single serial number separated from rest of ML records. Shipped 5/22/1981
18. MLG prefix are all 9259 Sport Kings 123 guns. All shipped May 1980.
19. First SH serial number shipped 5/22/1981
20. Last SH gun 25 June, 1984, last observed shipment 28 July, 1984. Last SH serial number SH 34,075, Frames only SH 34,000-SH 34,075. Note overlap with   serial numbers of shipped guns. Frames to G. W. Elliott 13 November 1984
21. The early Model C pistols were in a separate serial number series beginning at 500 and ending at 3,116. Earliest shipment began December 1, 1936 with serial numbers 516, 523, and 525 latest shipment was 3,116 shipping on 10/3/1939.
22. The early Model A and D pistols were in a separate serial number series beginning at 500 and ending at 555. Numerous OPEN records. Earliest recorded shipment was April 6, 1938 and latest shipment was on 10/8/1939
23. The Model G .380 was also in a separate serial number series. The records run from 100 through 7,881 ut at least one survvoe is known with a serial number below 100. Shipments are not well ordered with respect to the serial number. Shipment dates range from September 13, 1947 through Late 1951 with a few outliers later. A few G .380's have serial numbers in the regular serial number series between 328,161 and 329,430 all with a ship date of 7/26/1950.

Leisure Group sold High Standard Mfg. Corp to High Standard Inc. __,__ 1978

Compiled by _ John Stimson, Jr.
Released ___ 30 March, 2002,   Revised ___1 April, 2002,   Revised ___25 Dec, 2003
Revised ___29 March, 2005, Revised ___9 October, 2005, Revised ___28 February, 2007
Revised ___1 May, 2012
John J. Stimson, Jr. 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005,2006,2007,2008,2009, 2010, 2011, 2012

Sticky!,,?

Bruce, I think, you are pointing at something, maybe a better way of posting information.  Unfortunately brevity at such level escapes my understanding.  I tried and ran search on "sticky", and checked all icons - still have no clue.  I'm always ready and happy to learn!!  If you don't mind, please explain.  Thank you, AP

PhotoEscape wrote:Bruce, I think, you are pointing at something, maybe a better way of posting information.  Unfortunately brevity at such level escapes my understanding.  I tried and ran search on "sticky", and checked all icons - still have no clue.  I'm always ready and happy to learn!!  If you don't mind, please explain.  Thank you, AP

Sticky just means it should be posted up above in the "sticky" area so it should always have easy access.

Got it.  Thank you, Len.  I'll try to learn how to do it.  Is there a way to move tread to Sticky area?  I see it has posts with "S" designation, but I'm yet to find how to add that. 

Chris, thank you for the link, - I enjoyed watching this little animation.  This forum is a wealth of the information accumulated by the best in the sport of BE, but most importantly folks are readily share their knowledge.  Gathering and processing information is my full time job.  So I know how much time it takes.  The fact that I can ask question and get detailed to the point answer rather expeditiously versus spending substantial amount of time researching on internet is enormous benefit.  With the work I do, I developed methods of finding and storing information, and I use  that for the information I have interest in on personal level too.  So, I'm happy to contribute with what I have, and save folks time.  I appreciate many factual posts of yours too!

AP

Chris Miceli wrote:This will help find the HS information, click the link.
http://bfy.tw/KaBx

that was a fantastic link, really helpful

[\sarcasm]


anyway, 

Mr Stimson's  website is the best,  log in and post the question, 

the info already posted is a good reference, (from his website) 

he can tell you which plant and when shipped

PhotoEscape wrote:Got it.  Thank you, Len.  I'll try to learn how to do it.  Is there a way to move tread to Sticky area?  I see it has posts with "S" designation, but I'm yet to find how to add that. 

Chris, thank you for the link, - I enjoyed watching this little animation.  This forum is a wealth of the information accumulated by the best in the sport of BE, but most importantly folks are readily share their knowledge.  Gathering and processing information is my full time job.  So I know how much time it takes.  The fact that I can ask question and get detailed to the point answer rather expeditiously versus spending substantial amount of time researching on internet is enormous benefit.  With the work I do, I developed methods of finding and storing information, and I use  that for the information I have interest in on personal level too.  So, I'm happy to contribute with what I have, and save folks time.  I appreciate many factual posts of yours too!

AP

The omnipotent potentate does deem this sticky worthy....

I recently came across of this chart in Mr. Stimson archives - it is copyrighted information (see below) and hence cannot be used to derive monetary benefits.  I'm posting this solely for informational purposed of BE forum members.


1/11/2012 5:23 AM John J. Stimson, Jr.

AP

This is a copy of words by Mr Stimson from his forum. 

....the first serial number for the ML prefix pistols which began at ML 01,001 

Production at East Hartford began in July 1977.  Production of the ML prefix gun ended in Hamden in December 1976 but the G prefix 104 series production ended in October 1976 and the 103 series production ended in Hamden in January 1977.

Below are random found words by Mr Stimson from his forum. 

....the first serial number for the ML prefix pistols which began at ML 01,001 

Production at East Hartford began in July 1977.  Production of the ML prefix gun ended in Hamden in December 1976 but the G prefix 104 series production ended in October 1976 and the 103 series production ended in Hamden in January 1977.

You are correct about the G prefix being the last of the slant grip pistol serial numbers. However the ML and G serial numbers ran in parallel until the slant grip pistols stopped production.

Your guess about the MLG prefix being the first day is pretty far off the mark. There were no military grip Sport Kings until after the move to East Hartford. The first ML serial number in East Hartofrd was ML 25,000. The first ML serial number by HSI was perhaps ML 29,709 but then they skipped from ML29,721 to ML 30,000. The first ML Sport Kings were at ML 35,453 (September 1978). MLG was from May 1980.

mind boggling..Can't make heads or tails or these numbers 
 Serial # HS 33096 victor... when was it made / shipped ???

Distinguished-2086 wrote:mind boggling..Can't make heads or tails or these numbers 
 Serial # HS 33096 victor... when was it made / shipped ???

You mean SH? 1984 per table

I’ve recently acquired a HS Supermatic Trophy #234xxxx with a 71/2” fluted barrel.  I was told that it is a Hamden gun but, nowhere is there any indication as to where it was made.  Only the eagle on the right side of the barrel flat.
Anyone have info for me?

Lowrate wrote:I’ve recently acquired a HS Supermatic Trophy #234xxxx with a 71/2” fluted barrel.  I was told that it is a Hamden gun but, nowhere is there any indication as to where it was made.  Only the eagle on the right side of the barrel flat.
Anyone have info for me?

I have a Citation and a Victor from about the same time.  Both say Hamden on the right side of the barrel.

This pistol only has the Eagle on the barrel.

With only an eagle, it might be a Houston barrel

The serial number 2,34x,xxx fits here 1971-2,282,293  1972-2,356,207

My Houston 10X barrel is marked on the left '22 LONG RIFLE'
on the right is only the Houston eagle logo.

Jack H,
I think you’re right. Any issues with how it shoots? Thanks

I ransomed the 10X Houston barrel. 
With Eley it was under 1".  With Lesser ammo up to 1.5"  or so

PhotoEscape wrote:Source - http://www.histandard.info/
Your best possible source for information is Mr. John Stimson, - he's very nice and always ready to share the knowledge of Hi Standard's data.
AP


Serial numbers

Regular Serial numbers - Highest serial number shipped for the year. Regular numbers began with 5,000 which shipped October 15, 1932.

Note the serial number research is a work in process and these numbers are the best estimates as of the revision data of this page. Although it appears that the guns were generally assembled in numerical sequence, the shipments were not and some guns remained in inventory for weeks, months, or even years between assembly and shipment. The only valid way to determine the shipping date is by researching the individual serial number in the factory records.

YEAR	Serial number		YEAR	Serial number		YEAR	Serial number		YEAR	Serial number		YEAR	Serial number
.	.		1940	70,715		1950	335,693		1960	1,147,641		1970	2,232,503
.	.		1941	91,986		1951	357,295		1961	1,224,652		1971	2,282,293
1932	5,102		1942	104,520		1952	406,852		1962	1,285,049		1972	2,356,207
1933	6,567		1943	115,423		1953	442,984		1963	1,351,908		1973	2,424,175
1934	8,313		1944	135,659		1954	475,186		1964	1,418,870		.	.
1935	11,651		1945	145,817		1955	508,613		1965	1,507,541		.	.
1936	18,751		1946	174,194		1956	652,405		1966	1,610,707		.	.
1937	30,026		1947	233,402		1957	777,559		1967	1,853,513		.	.
1938	39,430		1948	301,349		1958	913,111		1968	2,030,404		.	.
1939	50,619		1949	326,123		1959	1,044,802		1969	2,172,356		.	.

 

YEAR	Serial number	G prefix (5 digit)	G prefix (6 digit)	ML prefix (5 digit)	MLG prefix (5 digit)	SH prefix (5 digit)
1974	2,469,497 (1) 3,000,000	.	.	.	.	.
1975	(2) 2,500,810	(4) G 1,001 G 04,566	.	(9) ML 01,001 ML 06,747	.	.
1976	(3) 2,500,811	G 13,757	.	(10) ML 23,065	.	.
1977	.	(5) G 18,298	( G 160,000 G 162,590	(11) EH 0001 (12) ML 25,000 (13) ML 29,707	.	.
1978	.	(6) G 19,299 to G 19,319 & (7) G 20,000 G 20,223	.	(14) ML 29,708 ML 29,721 & (15) ML 30,000 ML 41,270	.	.
1979	.	.	.	ML 63,483	.	.
1980	.	.	.	ML 81,629	(18) MLG 20,224 MLG 20,408	.
1981	.	.	.	(16) ML 86,641 (17) ML 90,000	.	(19) SH 10,001 SH 18,446
1982	.	.	.	.	.	SH 25,964
1983	.	.	.	.	.	SH 31,558
1984	.	.	.	.	.	(20) SH 34,034

Notes:
1. 3,000,000 This 9211 Victor shipped 1 March, 1974
2. Last gun in regular series shipping in 1975 This 9247 Supermatic Trophy shipped 28 August, 1975.
3. Last serial number in regular series excluding the special Victor S/N 3,000,000 This 9329 Double Nine shipped 26 October, 1976.
4. First G prefix guns to assembly 8 July, 1975, packed 14, July, shipments began 21, July, 1975
5. Last? Leisure Group G prefix 12 Aug, 1977.
6. G 19,299 - G 19,319 are all 9201 Sport Kings 20 guns all shipped March 1978.
7. First High Standard Inc. G20,000 - G 20,105 (103 guns) are all 9244 Supermatic Citations. G 20,106 - G 20,233 (116 guns) all are 9201 Sport Kings
8. G six digit are all 9200 or 9201 Sport Kings Note right most digit is always a zero so the serial number increments by 10's not 1's 254 guns. One exception to      numbering is G 162,011. All shipped October 1978
9. First ML prefix serial number. to production 7/22/75, packed 7/26/75, shipped 7/25/75. Note records show MIL prefix from MIL 01,001 to MIL 01,099 and    ML from ML 01,100 on. This needs to be verified by observation of actual guns.
10. Last Hamden ML prefix 14 December, 1976
11. EH 00,001 9217 First East Hartford gun 16 June, 1977
12. First East Hartford ML prefix pistol. First shipments of ML prefix guns 17 June, 1977.
13. Last Leisure Group ML prefix 21 December 1977.
14. First pistols with ML prefix made for High Standard, Inc. Mixed production dates between 2 February, 1978 and 9 November, 1978 with one pistol   manufactured 16 February, 1980.
15. First pistols with ML prefix made for High Standard, Inc 21 March, 1978
16. Last regular ML prefix gun 15 September, 1981.
17. Gun is a single serial number separated from rest of ML records. Shipped 5/22/1981
18. MLG prefix are all 9259 Sport Kings 123 guns. All shipped May 1980.
19. First SH serial number shipped 5/22/1981
20. Last SH gun 25 June, 1984, last observed shipment 28 July, 1984. Last SH serial number SH 34,075, Frames only SH 34,000-SH 34,075. Note overlap with   serial numbers of shipped guns. Frames to G. W. Elliott 13 November 1984
21. The early Model C pistols were in a separate serial number series beginning at 500 and ending at 3,116. Earliest shipment began December 1, 1936 with serial numbers 516, 523, and 525 latest shipment was 3,116 shipping on 10/3/1939.
22. The early Model A and D pistols were in a separate serial number series beginning at 500 and ending at 555. Numerous OPEN records. Earliest recorded shipment was April 6, 1938 and latest shipment was on 10/8/1939
23. The Model G .380 was also in a separate serial number series. The records run from 100 through 7,881 ut at least one survvoe is known with a serial number below 100. Shipments are not well ordered with respect to the serial number. Shipment dates range from September 13, 1947 through Late 1951 with a few outliers later. A few G .380's have serial numbers in the regular serial number series between 328,161 and 329,430 all with a ship date of 7/26/1950.

Leisure Group sold High Standard Mfg. Corp to High Standard Inc. __,__ 1978

Compiled by _ John Stimson, Jr.
Released ___ 30 March, 2002,   Revised ___1 April, 2002,   Revised ___25 Dec, 2003
Revised ___29 March, 2005, Revised ___9 October, 2005, Revised ___28 February, 2007
Revised ___1 May, 2012
John J. Stimson, Jr. 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005,2006,2007,2008,2009, 2010, 2011, 2012

Thanks for sharing

Glad I found this. It is very helpful giving me a ballpark idea of the manufacture dating of my pistols.