DR bullet choice
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DR bullet choice
Let's say you were slightly masochistic and wanted to load for DR... would you start with a RN, SWC, or HPSWC? Most likely thinking a swaged bullet from Zero, unless someone has a better idea...
Dave
Dave
Dcforman- Posts : 928
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Re: DR bullet choice
There are several threads here on Distinguished Revolver loads. Several upper level shooters seem to really like the Magtech 158gr RN Lead available at Graf & Son.
https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t2221-distinguished-revolver-loads-that-don-t-suck?
https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t2221-distinguished-revolver-loads-that-don-t-suck?
NuJudge- Posts : 263
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Re: DR bullet choice
I've read through that post several times. It seems more people were using SWC, and only really LenV was using the RN (at least in reloads). Curious if anyone else can give input.
Dcforman- Posts : 928
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Re: DR bullet choice
No, generally the RN bullets shoot better at 50 yds. Exceptions of course.
james r chapman- Admin
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Re: DR bullet choice
I shoot a S&W M14-3.. I tried a lot of different loads using a 158 grain lead semi wadcutter. Nothing worked. Shot awful at 50 yards. Finally someone here - probably Len - suggested lead round nose Bullets. That was the trick. I cast my own. I use a Lee Tumble Lube design bullet. Shoots great.
3.2 grains of Bullseye, Winchester brass, Winchester primers, 158 grain LRN bullet.
3.2 grains of Bullseye, Winchester brass, Winchester primers, 158 grain LRN bullet.
Tim:H11- Posts : 2133
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Re: DR bullet choice
What's your crimp and OAL? Do your cast bullets have a crimp groove?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Dcforman- Posts : 928
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Re: DR bullet choice
Dcforman wrote:What's your crimp and OAL? Do your cast bullets have a crimp groove?
Thanks!
The red line/arrow points to the last “ring” or “rib” on the bullet. I have no idea what the numbers are for overall length but I use the last groove as a crimp ring and it leaves that last rib exposed. As to crimp.. I don’t know either. I just crimp pretty snug. Sorry. I could try to take some measurements ...
Tim:H11- Posts : 2133
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Re: DR bullet choice
Just for information, hollow points are not allowed in DR.
ric1911a1- Posts : 338
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Re: DR bullet choice
Thanks for the info. It seemed some people had stated that some match directors were OK with the HPSWC, some weren't. I couldn't find a lot of clarity on it.
Dcforman- Posts : 928
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Re: DR bullet choice
I queried the NRA on it a couple years ago, and received an email (a month later) stating hollow points were not allowed, so it isn't just hearsay...............
The written rules do not clarify it.
The written rules do not clarify it.
ric1911a1- Posts : 338
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Re: DR bullet choice
I find nothing preventing 158 hp bullets from being used
Nothing specifying lead either
Nothing specifying lead either
james r chapman- Admin
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Re: DR bullet choice
We are currently going through the process of updating our rulebooks to include more specifics in regards to DR ammunition. As soon as that happens, we will post all changes/updates on our Pistol Programs website. The following verbiage is from members of our pistol rules committee:
Any 158gr Round nose or SWC Lead or jacketed would be acceptable as long as 158 and above types. The flat nosed does not meet the rules.
It is neither a round nose nor a SWC. Hollow point also does not meet the acceptable standard.
Please feel free to call or email us again if you have any further questions in this regard.
Respectfully,
Elizabeth Martin
NRA Pistol Programs Specialist
Competitive Shooting Division
11250 Waples Mill Rd. | Fairfax, VA 22030
703-267-1452 | bmartin@nrahq.org
This is the answer I received when I was trying to find clarification.
Ric
Any 158gr Round nose or SWC Lead or jacketed would be acceptable as long as 158 and above types. The flat nosed does not meet the rules.
It is neither a round nose nor a SWC. Hollow point also does not meet the acceptable standard.
Please feel free to call or email us again if you have any further questions in this regard.
Respectfully,
Elizabeth Martin
NRA Pistol Programs Specialist
Competitive Shooting Division
11250 Waples Mill Rd. | Fairfax, VA 22030
703-267-1452 | bmartin@nrahq.org
This is the answer I received when I was trying to find clarification.
Ric
ric1911a1- Posts : 338
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Re: DR bullet choice
I received this on June 1, 2015.
ric1911a1- Posts : 338
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Re: DR bullet choice
Personally I couldnt get anything to shoot as well as Federal factory 158gr LRN at 50 yards. Short line I used Zero SWC with 3.3 WST
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Re: DR bullet choice
I'm with David. For the long line find a round nose factory round your pistol likes and stick with it.
For the short line I run 3.0 of wst and a Magnus 158 swaged swc..
For the short line I run 3.0 of wst and a Magnus 158 swaged swc..
jglenn21- Posts : 2620
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Re: DR bullet choice
In my troublesome younger days I’d have shot 180 from jacketed hp bullets and ask to show me the rule in my curren rulebook.
james r chapman- Admin
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Re: DR bullet choice
David, do the Zero SWC have a crimp groove? Tough to tell from the pics on Roze's website. If not, what's your OAL?orpheoet wrote:Personally I couldnt get anything to shoot as well as Federal factory 158gr LRN at 50 yards. Short line I used Zero SWC with 3.3 WST
Thanks!
Dcforman- Posts : 928
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Re: DR bullet choice
Try a box of Magtech 158 gr rn factory ammo.
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