Mounting red dots rear,middle or front?
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Mounting red dots rear,middle or front?
How due you guys like to mount your red dots on your pistol. Back, middle or front. Any science on this?
smsnyder- Posts : 630
Join date : 2019-08-23
Location : Pittsburgh Pa
Re: Mounting red dots rear,middle or front?
Mount it to the front..hows it feel..not good...then mount in the back...hows it feel? Good...question answered
Personal preference..you’ll know it when it’s right
Shooter A hates the way shooter B mounts his dot. And vise versa.
Sometimes you have no choice due to the rail configuration
You have to find what you like
Just my 2C
Personal preference..you’ll know it when it’s right
Shooter A hates the way shooter B mounts his dot. And vise versa.
Sometimes you have no choice due to the rail configuration
You have to find what you like
Just my 2C
lablover- Posts : 1275
Join date : 2015-07-30
Location : Michigan
Re: Mounting red dots rear,middle or front?
Science? I'm not sure that is the right word. Opinion would be closer. I always try to mount my dot on the back of the pistol. I have always felt the dot was easier to re-acquire. On the front they also make them feel nose heavy. I know I also have pistols with barrel weights but that's different. See first answer. I have even modified mounts to get the dot in line with the grip. Like my old 41.
LenV- Posts : 4770
Join date : 2014-01-24
Age : 74
Location : Oregon
Re: Mounting red dots rear,middle or front?
Hi Smsnyder:
I put my red dots towards the rear of the pistol for the highly scientific reason that it just don't look right mounted way up there out on the front.
On that Pardini you just got? Slide it all the way back so you don't look like a dork! Be aware that some grips will interfere with the rails back there. On my Pardini with Dick Horton Grips, I loosened up the grip screw to lower the grips and slid the red dot back and then tightened the grip screw. Also be aware that the slits on the pardini (grooves, slots, rails, whatever) taper into full depth so that if you have a red dot with a long tooth on one side and a shorter "biter" on the other side, if you slide the red dot back loose it might ride up on the taper on one side and cock the red dot out a bit.
Regards,
Crankster
I put my red dots towards the rear of the pistol for the highly scientific reason that it just don't look right mounted way up there out on the front.
On that Pardini you just got? Slide it all the way back so you don't look like a dork! Be aware that some grips will interfere with the rails back there. On my Pardini with Dick Horton Grips, I loosened up the grip screw to lower the grips and slid the red dot back and then tightened the grip screw. Also be aware that the slits on the pardini (grooves, slots, rails, whatever) taper into full depth so that if you have a red dot with a long tooth on one side and a shorter "biter" on the other side, if you slide the red dot back loose it might ride up on the taper on one side and cock the red dot out a bit.
Regards,
Crankster
Re: Mounting red dots rear,middle or front?
Maybe not very scientific, but I remember having what I thought were good reasons to have the sight closer to the front, but all I got for my trouble was a gun that was now nose-heavy, and because the sight was further away, the sight looked smaller.
I moved it back, like what LenV shows in his photo up above, and the gun felt "balanced" better, and I felt like I had a better sight picture. There are quite a few photos posted here that show the two sight rings mounted on the front of a sight, so the body of the sight extends to the rear. I'm not sure how good or bad that idea is, but for me, the gun with Matchdot II red dot site did feel balanced better.
I suspect that when a gun is designed, they go to a lot of effort to make the gun feel good in your hand - most of the time, at least. When the sight is over the grip, you haven't disturbed that balance. Also, your "field of view" seems smaller or larger depending on where you mount it.
I moved it back, like what LenV shows in his photo up above, and the gun felt "balanced" better, and I felt like I had a better sight picture. There are quite a few photos posted here that show the two sight rings mounted on the front of a sight, so the body of the sight extends to the rear. I'm not sure how good or bad that idea is, but for me, the gun with Matchdot II red dot site did feel balanced better.
I suspect that when a gun is designed, they go to a lot of effort to make the gun feel good in your hand - most of the time, at least. When the sight is over the grip, you haven't disturbed that balance. Also, your "field of view" seems smaller or larger depending on where you mount it.
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
Join date : 2016-07-26
Age : 80
Location : South Florida, and India
Re: Mounting red dots rear,middle or front?
I have found with the dot sight to the front, it moves more. The end of the barrel is further from the center point of the wobble.
David
David
David R- Posts : 408
Join date : 2018-12-10
Age : 64
Location : Hamlin NY
Re: Mounting red dots rear,middle or front?
IMHO you want the red dot image surface (generally the front glass) to be as closely above the trigger as practical. This gives the most natural pointing perspective, and generally keeps the gun neutrally balanced.
Some guns have functional issues, due to availability of rail location, ejected brass hitting things, cleaning and other access, etc. Be flexible.
Some guns have functional issues, due to availability of rail location, ejected brass hitting things, cleaning and other access, etc. Be flexible.
-TT-- Posts : 624
Join date : 2016-10-18
Re: Mounting red dots rear,middle or front?
I agree with those who suggest it is a matter of personal preference and you will need to experiment a little to determine which is best for you. I found best results when I stationed the dot's heaviest part above the trigger.
Phil
Phil
PMcfall- Posts : 395
Join date : 2011-06-16
Location : St. Joseph, MO
Re: Mounting red dots rear,middle or front?
I just remembered this post while I was modifying a Weaver #401 mount. The long mount works great for full length dots but has a lot of extra for a Micro. I wacked (technical term) about 1.25" off the mount and added a cut to mount the dot in the middle. I also used some aluminum black to match and mounted it on the revolver. All of that took about 30 minutes. Now I have a base that lets me mount a Micro on my K frame where I like it.
Last edited by LenV on 1/23/2020, 11:41 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Corrected mount number)
LenV- Posts : 4770
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Location : Oregon
james r chapman- Admin
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Age : 75
Location : HELL, Michigan
Re: Mounting red dots rear,middle or front?
Is that a shot gun shell used as a hood?
rich.tullo- Posts : 2006
Join date : 2015-03-27
Re: Mounting red dots rear,middle or front?
NO!! lolrich.tullo wrote:Is that a shot gun shell used as a hood?
It’s 3D printed marked with the windage adjustment direction magic markered on it!
james r chapman- Admin
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Re: Mounting red dots rear,middle or front?
I put an LSP barrel on my High Standard Victor. Its now muzzle heavy, so I moved the ultra dot back as far as possible.
David
David
David R- Posts : 408
Join date : 2018-12-10
Age : 64
Location : Hamlin NY
Re: Mounting red dots rear,middle or front?
len I like the looks of your revolver set up I have a M15 that is not drilled and taped does that mount match factory holes same as the Weaver 401 mount.
I want to drill and tap mine for red dot.
Thanks
I want to drill and tap mine for red dot.
Thanks
Deerspy- Posts : 246
Join date : 2013-01-30
Location : east Iowa
Re: Mounting red dots rear,middle or front?
Thanks for catching my dyslexia. It is a #401. It matches factory holes.
Len
Len
LenV- Posts : 4770
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Age : 74
Location : Oregon
LenV- Posts : 4770
Join date : 2014-01-24
Age : 74
Location : Oregon
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