NMC League Week 27
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NMC League Week 27
Well it’s a brand new week. Here’s mine. The good, the bad, and the ugly!
Walther GSP/dot sight
Outdoor 25/50 yard
Agulia SE
SF 97-5
TF 95-2
RF 96-3
NMC 288-10
After a great slow fire the wheels just fell off!
JKR
Walther GSP/dot sight
Outdoor 25/50 yard
Agulia SE
SF 97-5
TF 95-2
RF 96-3
NMC 288-10
After a great slow fire the wheels just fell off!
JKR
JKR- Posts : 763
Join date : 2015-01-13
Location : Northern Wisconsin
Re: NMC League Week 27
Name or forum name: Mike Myers
Date: Aug 31, 2020
Distance: 25 yard
Indoor/Outdoor: Outdoor
Pistol: High Standard X-Series and Salyer Springfield 45
Caliber: 22 (and 45)
Sights: Aimpoint H-2 (And one inch Ultradot)
Shooting aids: none
Hands used: 1
Targets: B-8
Post a picture of the targets if you can. ...below...
Score Slow Fire: 96 4X
Score Timed Fire: 97 3X
Score Rapid Fire: 93 2X
TOTAL: 286 9X
(doesn't count, as the slow fire target was B-8.
I also shot the B-16 three times, and once more with my wad gun.)
Slow Fire: I also shot at three B-16 targets with my High Standard, and one B-16 with my wad gun. Those are the lower three photos. I haven't scored them yet. The first two with the High Standard were "aimed" at the X. Then I came to my senses, and shot the third, and also the 45 targets, using Dave Salyer's Area Aiming instructions. Big difference!
Date: Aug 31, 2020
Distance: 25 yard
Indoor/Outdoor: Outdoor
Pistol: High Standard X-Series and Salyer Springfield 45
Caliber: 22 (and 45)
Sights: Aimpoint H-2 (And one inch Ultradot)
Shooting aids: none
Hands used: 1
Targets: B-8
Post a picture of the targets if you can. ...below...
Score Slow Fire: 96 4X
Score Timed Fire: 97 3X
Score Rapid Fire: 93 2X
TOTAL: 286 9X
(doesn't count, as the slow fire target was B-8.
I also shot the B-16 three times, and once more with my wad gun.)
Slow Fire: I also shot at three B-16 targets with my High Standard, and one B-16 with my wad gun. Those are the lower three photos. I haven't scored them yet. The first two with the High Standard were "aimed" at the X. Then I came to my senses, and shot the third, and also the 45 targets, using Dave Salyer's Area Aiming instructions. Big difference!
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
Join date : 2016-07-26
Age : 80
Location : South Florida, and India
Re: NMC League Week 27
[quote defaultattr=""] (doesn't count, as the slow fire target was B-8.
I also shot the B-16 three times, and once more with my wad gun.)[/quote]
I gotta ask, why’d you shoot the SF with a B8 and use that as your NMC score and then shot on the proper B16 target. Seems like you’re doing yourself a disservice.
I also shot the B-16 three times, and once more with my wad gun.)[/quote]
I gotta ask, why’d you shoot the SF with a B8 and use that as your NMC score and then shot on the proper B16 target. Seems like you’re doing yourself a disservice.
dapduh2- Posts : 308
Join date : 2018-03-24
Location : Crewe, VA
Re: NMC League Week 27
Easy - the fellow I'm competing with doesn't want to use the B-16, so I shot the B-8 competing with him, and the B-16 to see what it was like to do so. I didn't have time to do it earlier today, but from now on I will shoot four targets, slow-fire B-8, slow-fire B-16, timed fire B-8, and rapid fire B-8.
Tony and I want to do one round of 22, then one round of center fire, and the targets I posted here from now on will be the B-16, which I've been told is the proper target. For today, Tony shot his Model 52, but I shot my 45.
Meanwhile, Dave is going to look at the B-16 targets, and ask why I obviously shot "point aiming", rather than "area aiming" as in the third target. I was curious, and got the results I expected. The top three targets that I added up were all area-aiming.
Shooting with area aiming, you get a cluster of holes.
Shooting at the bullseye gets you a donut.
At least for me - and Dave has proved it many times. He knows instantly which way I shot.
As to doing myself a disservice, my goal is to shoot with some new ideas I got from watching the Master's video. I went home with a smile on my face. I want to watch that video again from beginning to end, and make more notes.
Tony and I want to do one round of 22, then one round of center fire, and the targets I posted here from now on will be the B-16, which I've been told is the proper target. For today, Tony shot his Model 52, but I shot my 45.
Meanwhile, Dave is going to look at the B-16 targets, and ask why I obviously shot "point aiming", rather than "area aiming" as in the third target. I was curious, and got the results I expected. The top three targets that I added up were all area-aiming.
Shooting with area aiming, you get a cluster of holes.
Shooting at the bullseye gets you a donut.
At least for me - and Dave has proved it many times. He knows instantly which way I shot.
As to doing myself a disservice, my goal is to shoot with some new ideas I got from watching the Master's video. I went home with a smile on my face. I want to watch that video again from beginning to end, and make more notes.
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
Join date : 2016-07-26
Age : 80
Location : South Florida, and India
Re: NMC League Week 27
Wasn’t meant with ill intent, just can’t know your true potential in a match if you aren’t using proper targets. If your buddy doesn’t like the B16 you can place it behind your B8 possibly on the SF string to get a better idea.
dapduh2- Posts : 308
Join date : 2018-03-24
Location : Crewe, VA
Re: NMC League Week 27
No, I never thought of "ill intent", or anything similar.
Hey, BRILLIANT IDEA!!!!!!!! Shoot B-16, with the B-8 behind it.
Thank you!!!!!
I wish I had thought of that earlier.
I know the scores are important as it's a match, a competition, but to be honest, I know instantly if I'm pleased or not just by looking at the group. It should be tighter than it is now, but I can see the potential.
It sounds silly, but I think it's easier for me to shoot well with the 45 than the 22. I would have thought the opposite would be true.
Hey, BRILLIANT IDEA!!!!!!!! Shoot B-16, with the B-8 behind it.
Thank you!!!!!
I wish I had thought of that earlier.
I know the scores are important as it's a match, a competition, but to be honest, I know instantly if I'm pleased or not just by looking at the group. It should be tighter than it is now, but I can see the potential.
It sounds silly, but I think it's easier for me to shoot well with the 45 than the 22. I would have thought the opposite would be true.
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
Join date : 2016-07-26
Age : 80
Location : South Florida, and India
Re: NMC League Week 27
aub1957,
Nicely done. And with irons too!
JKR
Nicely done. And with irons too!
JKR
JKR- Posts : 763
Join date : 2015-01-13
Location : Northern Wisconsin
Re: NMC League Week 27
Thanks, JKR. I was quite rushed due to an approaching thunderstorm. I did more driving than shooting that day. Never had time for centerfire.
I had a few surprising 50 yd practice targets from Sunday including this 89 with the Xesse and CCI SV. This is just a great 50 yd score for me as I am usually low to mid 80s. This older (dark blue box) CCI just shot extremely nice at 50 out of that particular pistol. Man, if I could pull off shooting an 89 in slow fire in an EIC match, I'd feel "ten feet tall and bulletproof" going into timed.
I had a few surprising 50 yd practice targets from Sunday including this 89 with the Xesse and CCI SV. This is just a great 50 yd score for me as I am usually low to mid 80s. This older (dark blue box) CCI just shot extremely nice at 50 out of that particular pistol. Man, if I could pull off shooting an 89 in slow fire in an EIC match, I'd feel "ten feet tall and bulletproof" going into timed.
aub1957- Posts : 133
Join date : 2018-08-02
Re: NMC League Week 27
Name or forum name: DA/SA
Date: 9/5/20
Distance: 25 yard
Outdoor
Pistol: Marvel 1911 Conversion
Caliber: 22
Sights: Ultradot
Shooting aids: none
Targets: B-16 / B-8
Score Slow Fire: 87 0X
Score Timed Fire: 99 4X
Score Rapid Fire: 99 2X
TOTAL: 285 6X
Date: 9/5/20
Distance: 25 yard
Outdoor
Pistol: Marvel 1911 Conversion
Caliber: 22
Sights: Ultradot
Shooting aids: none
Targets: B-16 / B-8
Score Slow Fire: 87 0X
Score Timed Fire: 99 4X
Score Rapid Fire: 99 2X
TOTAL: 285 6X
DA/SA- Posts : 1506
Join date : 2017-10-09
Age : 68
Location : Southeast Florida
Re: NMC League Week 27
I look at your targets, and find it's interesting that you shoot Timed Fire better than Slow Fire, and you shoot just as nicely in Rapid. I wish I could do that! Nice!!!
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
Join date : 2016-07-26
Age : 80
Location : South Florida, and India
Re: NMC League Week 27
JKR, not sure whether you are a revolver shooter? I have several, but don't shoot any of them very well. My fingers are too short to comfortably thumb the hammer, so I typically shoot DA for both TF and RF.
But - I'm working on it! Today I needed to test some long line ammo I've just loaded and produced a decent result - by my standards!
10Sep20 25 yards Outdoor
(overcast due to heavy smoke from forest fires that are too close for comfort!)
K16-4 with UD 1"
XTP100 over 4.0 grains of Power Pistol for SF + TF
Normal 32SWL WC target loads for RF
Typical Harry Reeves Match
SF - 90
TF - 92
RF - 92
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NMC - 274
But - I'm working on it! Today I needed to test some long line ammo I've just loaded and produced a decent result - by my standards!
10Sep20 25 yards Outdoor
(overcast due to heavy smoke from forest fires that are too close for comfort!)
K16-4 with UD 1"
XTP100 over 4.0 grains of Power Pistol for SF + TF
Normal 32SWL WC target loads for RF
Typical Harry Reeves Match
SF - 90
TF - 92
RF - 92
----------
NMC - 274
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