NMC League Week 28
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NMC League Week 28
Some great scores shot last week so we’ll keep this going.
This week I took my old friend out of the drawer. It’s been a while since I’ve shot my Benelli but it felt pretty good.
Benelli 90/ dot sight
Ely action (40 grain)
Outdoor 50/25 yard
SF 95-4
TF 99-3
RF 98-3
NMC 292-10
This week I took my old friend out of the drawer. It’s been a while since I’ve shot my Benelli but it felt pretty good.
Benelli 90/ dot sight
Ely action (40 grain)
Outdoor 50/25 yard
SF 95-4
TF 99-3
RF 98-3
NMC 292-10
JKR- Posts : 763
Join date : 2015-01-13
Location : Northern Wisconsin
Re: NMC League Week 28
Had a frustrating day today - last time, I thought my Aimpoint H-1 broke, as I couldn't adjust the dot far enough to the right. I replaced it with my H-2, and had exactly the same experience. Looking down at the H-2, it looked to me like the sight was pointed off to the left, which should be impossible. I'll ask Larry about this.
Because I didn't trust things, I also brought my Aimpoint 9000sc. Mounted easily, got it sighted in equally easily, and while it's heavy, it worked. I need to practice more at timed and rapid fire - all I've been doing lately is slow fire....
Name or forum name: Mike Myers
Date: September 8, 2020
25 yards
Outdoor
Pistol: Nelson Conversion on Salyer/Caspian frame
Caliber: 22
Sights: Aimpoint 9000sc
Shooting aids: none
Hands used: 1
Targets: B-16, B-8, and because I ran out of B-8 targets, B-6
Score Slow Fire: 97 1X
Score Timed Fire: 89 2X
Score Rapid Fire: 96 1X
TOTAL: 282 4X
Note: Because the Aimpoint 9000 is so heavy, and has such a wide and clear view, the gun/sight was more stable, and once I got used to it, it was finally easy to get in 5 rapid fire shots in the allotted time. No more hunting for the dot. Either my hardware is better now, or I'm getting better at rapid fire.
Starting tomorrow, I'm going to practice "Timed Fire" for my slow fire target, and practice "Rapid Fire" for both my timed and rapid fire targets.
Because I didn't trust things, I also brought my Aimpoint 9000sc. Mounted easily, got it sighted in equally easily, and while it's heavy, it worked. I need to practice more at timed and rapid fire - all I've been doing lately is slow fire....
Name or forum name: Mike Myers
Date: September 8, 2020
25 yards
Outdoor
Pistol: Nelson Conversion on Salyer/Caspian frame
Caliber: 22
Sights: Aimpoint 9000sc
Shooting aids: none
Hands used: 1
Targets: B-16, B-8, and because I ran out of B-8 targets, B-6
Score Slow Fire: 97 1X
Score Timed Fire: 89 2X
Score Rapid Fire: 96 1X
TOTAL: 282 4X
Note: Because the Aimpoint 9000 is so heavy, and has such a wide and clear view, the gun/sight was more stable, and once I got used to it, it was finally easy to get in 5 rapid fire shots in the allotted time. No more hunting for the dot. Either my hardware is better now, or I'm getting better at rapid fire.
Starting tomorrow, I'm going to practice "Timed Fire" for my slow fire target, and practice "Rapid Fire" for both my timed and rapid fire targets.
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
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Age : 80
Location : South Florida, and India
Re: NMC League Week 28
Great slow fire target!!
DA/SA- Posts : 1482
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Age : 68
Location : Southeast Florida
Re: NMC League Week 28
After yesterday's frustrating experience, I made some changes. After a long discussion with John at Aimpoint, I found out the things I wasn't doing right, corrected them, and put the Aimpoint H-2 back on the gun. Not sure how big a problem it was, but I don't think my hands were all that steady in slow fire partly because of the weight of the Aimpoint 9000.
After looking at the Nelson from both sides and just staring at it, I realized that the Aimpoint mount was blocking the ejection port, so I moved the Aimpoint forwards as shown in the photo below.
(Side note: after the change, my CMP 22 ammo and my CCI ammo all worked flawlessly, no jams, no FTF, no problems. The Nelson "just worked". I will raise the elevation screw before I shoot again.)
Name or forum name: Mike Myers
Date: September 9, 2020
25 yards
Outdoor
Pistol: Nelson Conversion on Salyer/Caspian frame
Caliber: 22
Sights: Aimpoint H-2
Shooting aids: none
Hands used: 1
Targets: B-16, B-8
Slow Fire: 88 1X
Timed Fire: 98 2X
Rapid Fire: 96 3X
There was a rifle match going on at the other end of the range, so I had three 20 minute sessions to get the gun sighted in, then shoot. At the end of the session, the rains set in, which was the end of my day.
I don't know if these targets are considered good, average, or yuck! I do know I went home with a smile on my face, as I avoided the raindrops.
After looking at the Nelson from both sides and just staring at it, I realized that the Aimpoint mount was blocking the ejection port, so I moved the Aimpoint forwards as shown in the photo below.
(Side note: after the change, my CMP 22 ammo and my CCI ammo all worked flawlessly, no jams, no FTF, no problems. The Nelson "just worked". I will raise the elevation screw before I shoot again.)
Name or forum name: Mike Myers
Date: September 9, 2020
25 yards
Outdoor
Pistol: Nelson Conversion on Salyer/Caspian frame
Caliber: 22
Sights: Aimpoint H-2
Shooting aids: none
Hands used: 1
Targets: B-16, B-8
Slow Fire: 88 1X
Timed Fire: 98 2X
Rapid Fire: 96 3X
There was a rifle match going on at the other end of the range, so I had three 20 minute sessions to get the gun sighted in, then shoot. At the end of the session, the rains set in, which was the end of my day.
I don't know if these targets are considered good, average, or yuck! I do know I went home with a smile on my face, as I avoided the raindrops.
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
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Age : 80
Location : South Florida, and India
Re: NMC League Week 28
Added later - Larry at Nelson's tells me the Aimpoint sight should work just as well at the rear of the rail, where I used to prefer it to be. Eventually I'll move it back there for testing, but for now, I'm not changing anything. So ignore what I wrote about this up above - Larry tells me it is not an issue.
Oops, slow fire score should be 86, not 88.
Oops, slow fire score should be 86, not 88.
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
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Age : 80
Location : South Florida, and India
Final shot a BE Couse, its been a long time..
Last edited by jim fabanich on Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:25 pm; edited 2 times in total
jim fabanich- Posts : 97
Join date : 2012-07-15
Age : 59
Location : Eastern idaho
Re: NMC League Week 28
Nice shooting Jim. Welcome to our weekly match. Do you have a place to shoot bullseye matches after the snow flies? I’m sure that will be happening soon in your neck of the woods.
JKR
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JKR- Posts : 763
Join date : 2015-01-13
Location : Northern Wisconsin
Re: NMC League Week 28
Not really. Closest indoor range is 67 miles south and is 50ft only. They had a league until the Covid-19 issues shut it down...
jim fabanich- Posts : 97
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Age : 59
Location : Eastern idaho
Re: NMC League Week 28
Fortunately we can still shoot air pistol!
JKR- Posts : 763
Join date : 2015-01-13
Location : Northern Wisconsin
Re: NMC League Week 28
Name or forum name: Mike Myers
Date: Sep 15, 2020
Distance: 25 yard
Indoor/Outdoor: Outdoor
Pistol: Nelson 22 Conversion mounted on Salyer Caspian lower
Caliber: 22
Sights: Aimpoint H-2
Shooting aids: none
Hands used: 1
Targets: B-16, B-8
Post a picture of the targets if you can. ...below...
Score Slow Fire: 91 0X
Score Timed Fire: 97 4X
Score Rapid Fire: 99 2X
TOTAL: 287 6X
Comment/thoughts: CrankyThunder tells me to concentrate on trigger control to the exclusion of everything else. So my one-track mind kept playing a jingle all day today "WATCH THE DOT, WAIT FOR THE BANG", and I tried to blank out everything else. For reasons I don't understand, slow fire got more difficult, but Timed Fire and Rapid Fire seemed to get easier. Shooting at a Cadence helped, but for slow fire, everything slowed down so much I felt I was taking way too long before I shot. For Timed Fire and even for Rapid Fire, the guy almost automatically went to where it needed to be for the next shot, just like you guys said it would.
Date: Sep 15, 2020
Distance: 25 yard
Indoor/Outdoor: Outdoor
Pistol: Nelson 22 Conversion mounted on Salyer Caspian lower
Caliber: 22
Sights: Aimpoint H-2
Shooting aids: none
Hands used: 1
Targets: B-16, B-8
Post a picture of the targets if you can. ...below...
Score Slow Fire: 91 0X
Score Timed Fire: 97 4X
Score Rapid Fire: 99 2X
TOTAL: 287 6X
Comment/thoughts: CrankyThunder tells me to concentrate on trigger control to the exclusion of everything else. So my one-track mind kept playing a jingle all day today "WATCH THE DOT, WAIT FOR THE BANG", and I tried to blank out everything else. For reasons I don't understand, slow fire got more difficult, but Timed Fire and Rapid Fire seemed to get easier. Shooting at a Cadence helped, but for slow fire, everything slowed down so much I felt I was taking way too long before I shot. For Timed Fire and even for Rapid Fire, the guy almost automatically went to where it needed to be for the next shot, just like you guys said it would.
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
Join date : 2016-07-26
Age : 80
Location : South Florida, and India
Re: NMC League Week 28
Nice, and welcome!jim fabanich wrote:Shook the cobwebs out and fired a rf couse this AM.
PRECISION 92
TIMED 91
RAPID 95
Used my old MKII with ultra dot..........
(I miss the old days when I used a B-8 target for slow fire.... )
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
Join date : 2016-07-26
Age : 80
Location : South Florida, and India
Re: NMC League Week 28
First league night since the panicdemic shut nearly everything down here in the Kingdom of Cuomo... I’ve shot some practice/training, and was going to shoot a NMC for score and submit it until I found out I only had slow fire targets on hand.
September 15th
50 ft indoor/outdoor range (target stands outdoors, shooting stations indoors shooting through sliding windows... not how I’d set it up, but it works)
Ruger MkII Competition Target model w/ UltraDot
Slow fire 90
Timed fire 96 3X
Rapid fire 95 2X
NMC score 281 5X
September 15th
50 ft indoor/outdoor range (target stands outdoors, shooting stations indoors shooting through sliding windows... not how I’d set it up, but it works)
Ruger MkII Competition Target model w/ UltraDot
Slow fire 90
Timed fire 96 3X
Rapid fire 95 2X
NMC score 281 5X
Motophotog7- Posts : 134
Join date : 2020-01-04
Location : Clifton Park, NY
Re: NMC League Week 28
^^^That SF sure looks like a 92, maybe a 91.
TonyH- Posts : 801
Join date : 2018-08-06
Location : Utah's Dixie
Re: NMC League Week 28
Looks more like an 89.
five 10's, four 8's, and a 7.
Who's got a plug handy?
five 10's, four 8's, and a 7.
Who's got a plug handy?
DA/SA- Posts : 1482
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Age : 68
Location : Southeast Florida
Re: NMC League Week 28
OK, 92 was wrong...but that was before the first cup of coffee. 90? Plug!!
TonyH- Posts : 801
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Location : Utah's Dixie
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Re: NMC League Week 28
Nice shooting either way!!
DA/SA- Posts : 1482
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Re: NMC League Week 28
I just looked at the target again, as near as I can tell it touched the line, I wouldn't waste a dollar on it though... I guess I need to get a plug and maybe some overlays... 89 or 90 I'm happy. As that score is about where I was when the fecal matter hit the air circulation device...
Motophotog7- Posts : 134
Join date : 2020-01-04
Location : Clifton Park, NY
Re: NMC League Week 28
Good shooting! Keep it up!
TonyH- Posts : 801
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Location : Utah's Dixie
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Re: NMC League Week 28
Made it to the indoor range this evening, shot 50' NMC.
Model 41, Sightron red dot sight
SF = 92
TF = 94
RF = 98
NMC total = 284
All of the fundamental threads lately on trigger control have been helpful, I appreciate the top shooters taking time to explain these concepts. I have also been reviewing my notes from the last "Ask the Masters" session, looking forward to the next one.
Model 41, Sightron red dot sight
SF = 92
TF = 94
RF = 98
NMC total = 284
All of the fundamental threads lately on trigger control have been helpful, I appreciate the top shooters taking time to explain these concepts. I have also been reviewing my notes from the last "Ask the Masters" session, looking forward to the next one.
rburk- Posts : 166
Join date : 2019-09-26
Location : SoCal
Re: NMC League Week 28
One more crack at it this AM. 50y and 25y
46 Degrees, wind from rt to lft at 5mph.
Volquartzen/Mkii with UDot.
One handed.. Aguilla match.
S 95-5x
T 96-3
R 92-1
46 Degrees, wind from rt to lft at 5mph.
Volquartzen/Mkii with UDot.
One handed.. Aguilla match.
S 95-5x
T 96-3
R 92-1
jim fabanich- Posts : 97
Join date : 2012-07-15
Age : 59
Location : Eastern idaho
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