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Post by Mightyheb Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:02 pm

Good morning all. I have been using Bullseye and VN 310. I have a dillon press. 

Is there a different powder for mainly 45 acp that feeds well and is a good powder. 

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Post by james r chapman Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:06 pm

WST
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Post by Dcforman Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:10 pm

+1. Meters exceptionally well. Also, the recoil impulse is more a push, and less a snap than 310 or BE.


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Post by Guest Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:26 pm

IMHO. And rather limited experience. I think that 310 meters better than WST.

I had a problem with WST absorbing moisture (my bad, cause I left some in the hopper for a few months).

But 310 is also definitely sensitive to ambient conditions - does not like cold/damp.

BE seems to be dead reliable, but quite dirty. Never used it for 45ACP though.

Just my 2c. YMMV!

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Post by DA/SA Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:28 pm

Clays, if you have some and want to try something else.

I have original Clays (Austrailia before the fire) and have not tried the "new" stuff made in Canada if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by sbtzc Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:51 pm

W231 meters very well and is fairly clean burning. Just my experience.
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Post by oldsalt444 Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:27 pm

All good choices mentioned.  Titegroup is another that is a ball powder and meters extremely well.  Cleaner than BE.
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Post by Steve B Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:41 pm

I love Clays, but found it doesn't meter well.  The spread from high to low charges was nearing 1 grain.  310 meters great and producing more consistent short line, high volume loads out of my Dillon 650.

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Post by james r chapman Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:14 pm

Steve B wrote:I love Clays, but found it doesn't meter well.  The spread from high to low charges was nearing 1 grain.  310 meters great and producing more consistent short line, high volume loads out of my Dillon 650.

Unfortunately, I found the same. Maybe just the types of thrower.
Most large flake powders have bridging issues.
But, when it’s right, it’s a great powder.
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Post by Allen Barnett Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:11 pm

If you can find it Vectan Ba10 made by Nobel Sports out of Germany is a little known powder that I really like.  Here are the pros for it: it is a ball type powder that flows extremely well, burns super super clean, has a very fast burn rate, produces good velocity with very low powder charges, consistent velocities, the last that I bought from Grafs was $18.29 for a 1.1 pound bottle (they are sold out - go figure).  The biggest con: data is extremely limited but available on Graf's website.  I came across this powder buy way of Target Talk (I think it was) on a post by Brian Enos who tried it during the last powder shortage during the Obama years.  I am running 3.3 grs under a 185 gr Nosler that groups just under 2" out of my wad gun when bench rested over sandbags at fifty yards.

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Post by orpheoet Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:09 am

I'm a big fan of WST for .45 and .38.
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Post by Texasref Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 pm

The choices are.........whatever you can find. Mad
I recently switched to Alliant Sport Pistol. Meters well, not too dirty and shows good recoil impulse.
Others say it's a substitute for VV320, but they say that about everything. 
It is quite a bit cheaper than VV, about half price if that makes a difference.

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Post by messenger Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:11 pm

james r chapman wrote:
Steve B wrote:I love Clays, but found it doesn't meter well.  The spread from high to low charges was nearing 1 grain.  310 meters great and producing more consistent short line, high volume loads out of my Dillon 650.

Unfortunately, I found the same. Maybe just the types of thrower.
Most large flake powders have bridging issues.
But, when it’s right, it’s a great powder.

I have an Auto Trickler (not cheap) for doing precision rifle. I also use it for ransom rest testing. I too was trying to use Clays on my progressive. A lot of crunching was going on and the throws were very inconsistent. I have made a lot of loads to RR once the weather improves. Never used Clays before. Looking forward to the results. If I were to rely on just one powder it would be WST.

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Post by 8eightring Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:13 pm

WST has worked very well for me in 45 and 38. I think ??? it burns cleaner than BE.
I go with WSF for 230 grain hardball loads. Yes, I like the punch and recoil from full power 45 ACP ball ammo. That is what I went Distinguished with.
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Post by jjfitch Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:26 pm

Has anyone mentioned WST? Smile's


HTG is also good choice of the usually plentiful powders!
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Post by Bigtrout Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:41 am

oldsalt444 wrote:All good choices mentioned.  Titegroup is another that is a ball powder and meters extremely well.  Cleaner than BE.
Is there any pistol powder NOT cleaner than BE?
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Post by james r chapman Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:37 am

Bigtrout wrote:
oldsalt444 wrote:All good choices mentioned.  Titegroup is another that is a ball powder and meters extremely well.  Cleaner than BE.
Is there any pistol powder NOT cleaner than BE?

Maybe Unique!
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Post by Allgoodhits Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:29 pm

FFG and FFFG are not as clean as BE.
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Post by Vinkemulder Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:57 pm

oldsalt444 wrote:All good choices mentioned.  Titegroup is another that is a ball powder and meters extremely well.  Cleaner than BE.

I too have had good results with Titegroup.
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