Ruger mkIII selection help please.
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james r chapman
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Rob Kovach
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Jack H
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Ruger mkIII selection help please.
I am getting my girlfriend a bullseye pistol. We have settled on a Ruger mkIII due to price and parts availability. I will be getting an ultra match II to go on it.
The thing is there are a billion versions of the Ruger. What should i go with? Hunter, Target, Competition? If she likes shooting which I am certain she will then volquartsen trigger is in order. Do I go cheaper if I am going to update?
What would you guys go with for a beginner bullseye gun?
The thing is there are a billion versions of the Ruger. What should i go with? Hunter, Target, Competition? If she likes shooting which I am certain she will then volquartsen trigger is in order. Do I go cheaper if I am going to update?
What would you guys go with for a beginner bullseye gun?
MongooseDog- Posts : 11
Join date : 2013-09-11
Re: Ruger mkIII selection help please.
this one
http://www.ruger.com/products/markIIITarget/specSheets/10101.html
if weight is a concern the similar 22/45 version
http://www.ruger.com/products/2245Target/specSheets/10107.html
Try each grip stye if possible
http://www.ruger.com/products/markIIITarget/specSheets/10101.html
if weight is a concern the similar 22/45 version
http://www.ruger.com/products/2245Target/specSheets/10107.html
Try each grip stye if possible
Jack H- Posts : 2699
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Grip is why we are going with the normal mkiii.
I assume all that is different is the barrel between all the rugers.
I assume all that is different is the barrel between all the rugers.
MongooseDog- Posts : 11
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The mkiii target would be my choice. The competition is heavy. I would also consider the ultradot 1" for weight purposes as well.
WVBE Shooter- Posts : 90
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Can the target shoot as well as the comp? She can shoot really well and did't want to limit her. If the target is as good and a bit lighter it sounds like the way to go.
Does it come with a rail? I hope so. With the extra savings she really wants the laminated pink volquatsen grips.
Does it come with a rail? I hope so. With the extra savings she really wants the laminated pink volquatsen grips.
MongooseDog- Posts : 11
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Even the short barreled hunter model shoots great and is plenty accurate.
I think all mkIIIs include a scope rail.
I agree that the Matchdot is more weight and cost than I ever used. I don't like the 30mm window...I see more distractions...and I always set it for the same size dot as the 1" ultradot.
I prefer the grip angle of the MkIII 22/45 over the standard grip angle MKIII. The standard grip angle is at a really weak spot in my wrist...it costs me about 20 points. The volquartsen laminated grip angle is even worse for me.
I like no frills slab grips on my guns. If pink is something you want, check these out:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-45-acp-PINK-PUNISHER-GIRL-nylon-Grips-standard-1911-G-I-type-KIMBER-COLT-/321199392604?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac8f9c75c
I think all mkIIIs include a scope rail.
I agree that the Matchdot is more weight and cost than I ever used. I don't like the 30mm window...I see more distractions...and I always set it for the same size dot as the 1" ultradot.
I prefer the grip angle of the MkIII 22/45 over the standard grip angle MKIII. The standard grip angle is at a really weak spot in my wrist...it costs me about 20 points. The volquartsen laminated grip angle is even worse for me.
I like no frills slab grips on my guns. If pink is something you want, check these out:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-45-acp-PINK-PUNISHER-GIRL-nylon-Grips-standard-1911-G-I-type-KIMBER-COLT-/321199392604?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac8f9c75c
Rob Kovach- Admin
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Re: Ruger mkIII selection help please.
I showed them to her. She said they were to much. They are pretty ridiculous. We are going to go rent some guns this weekend for her to try. The volquartsen grips are on one there. Looking like the target model will do her good and with the money saved on that and the scope I am super happy.
MongooseDog- Posts : 11
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If weight is an issue, check out the 22/45 LITE. Weighs 11 ounces less than its all steel counterpart. I love the gun, and stock, I can shoot groups 1-1/2" consistently at 25 yards (bench rest) with it.
If you get a Ruger Mark III, definitely get the Volquartsen target trigger and sear. Made a world of difference in mine. Don't bother with the target hammer. It's lighter, but some guys claim they are getting weak primer strikes (no bang) with it. It really doesn't add anything accuracy wise, from what I read.
I mounted a Bushnell TRS-25 ($99) on mine and the Hogue wrap-around grips with the finger grooves.
If you get a Ruger Mark III, definitely get the Volquartsen target trigger and sear. Made a world of difference in mine. Don't bother with the target hammer. It's lighter, but some guys claim they are getting weak primer strikes (no bang) with it. It really doesn't add anything accuracy wise, from what I read.
I mounted a Bushnell TRS-25 ($99) on mine and the Hogue wrap-around grips with the finger grooves.
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Ok, so we have a few samples of Rugers set up to try some more for this weekend. Should be a good time. Right now we are thinking MKIII Target with the Ultradot. The money saved on that allows enough for the trigger and seer bits.
MongooseDog- Posts : 11
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I've found another forum specific to the Ruger MK's ,
http://www.guntalk-online.com/forum/
Probably the best information about the gut's of those guns...
http://www.guntalk-online.com/forum/
Probably the best information about the gut's of those guns...
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I would get a used Mk II rather than a Mk III if it were an option but not many Mk IIs show up around here for sale. We use Mk III 22/45's for our Youth and WOT programs and have a lot of issues with mags not seating fully or ejecting well, the magazine disconnect was perhaps the 'major improvement' with the Mk IIIs. It can be just a hair (literally) from being fully in place but won't feed a round which is disheartening when you watch how hard some of the kid's are trying and then the gun goes click rather than bang. We get quite a few misfires as well, we use whatever cheap ammo is available so that is part of the problem but many of the 'reject' cartridges will fire in my Mk II. I know that the mag disconnect can be 'undone' as I turned a friend's Mk III Hunter into a Mk II1/2 a while ago and that works very well now. Some people (like our club) are not about to remove any (so called) 'safety devices', particularly on firearms destined for inexperienced shooters, perhaps why used Mk IIs are so uncommon.
Bruce
Bruce
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MKIIs can be found but my dealer is giving me a super deal on a new MKIII and I like warranties and knowing what my gun has been through. I clean my guns more than they need it. Not sure a used one has been super taken care of. Going to fix the mag problem. Can't really fix the LCI but cleaning often should make that a non-issue.
She is getting quite excited at this point. To bad this is her Christmas present.
She is getting quite excited at this point. To bad this is her Christmas present.
MongooseDog- Posts : 11
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I am pretty sure that there is a 'drop-in' replacement piece for the LCI. I do find the LCI useful on occasion, but only as a coach who has to sort through the many 'failure to chamber' issues. As a shooter, I have been 'press checking' so long that I don't even think about it. The Mag disconnect is easy to cure. You already mentioned the Volquartsen trigger, If you get the 'whole kit' for a Mk II you will have the correct hammer and bushing to solve that problem.
Bruce
Bruce
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MongooseDog, you have the right idea. Let her try them. Men picking out guns for women doesn't usually work. Yiogo
Yiogo- Posts : 122
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Well we hit the range this weekend and she loved the 5.5" target. Well that settles that. Now to put down my down payment on the thing.
On a side not the overpriced pawn shop had a benelli MP 95E but they wanted a $1000 for it.
On a side not the overpriced pawn shop had a benelli MP 95E but they wanted a $1000 for it.
MongooseDog- Posts : 11
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That settles that for sure. If the lady ain't happy ain't nobody happy.
Yiogo
Yiogo
Yiogo- Posts : 122
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After 28 years of marriage....Yiogo wrote:That settles that for sure. If the lady ain't happy ain't nobody happy.
Yiogo
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spursnguns- Posts : 611
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Got her a small yet mean surprise today. Wal-Mart had some CCI SV in stock for the first time in forever. I bought her a bunch for practice ammo. To bad she doesn't have the gun yet.
MongooseDog- Posts : 11
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Five words for a happy marriage...Yiogo wrote:That settles that for sure. If the lady ain't happy ain't nobody happy.
Yiogo
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Re: Ruger mkIII selection help please.
Well, I lost an auction on a ss target with all kinds of mods. There is a hunter for sale near me for $400 that i am going to go look at. Found out it is a smidge lighter than the target. What do you all think about the hunter as a bullseye gun?
MongooseDog- Posts : 11
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My friend bought one a few months back after trying (and not being able to find another) my competition target. The front dot was quick to pick up but figuring out a consistent alignment with the "V" rear sight didn't work for either of us. When they are available (took a couple of months to get his) it is a simple swap to change to the 'real' target sights but you should figure on the extra $35 or so that it will cost to get them when pricing the Hunter.MongooseDog wrote:Well, I lost an auction on a ss target with all kinds of mods. There is a hunter for sale near me for $400 that i am going to go look at. Found out it is a smidge lighter than the target. What do you all think about the hunter as a bullseye gun?
Bruce
Fire Escape- Posts : 223
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We will be getting an ultradot to go on top so bit more than 35 :p
MongooseDog- Posts : 11
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I just bought the sight you mention for $81+ chg on Amazon. Really helps when weight is a factor.Bullseye10X wrote:If weight is an issue, check out the 22/45 LITE.
I mounted a Bushnell TRS-25 ($99) on mine and the Hogue wrap-around grips with the finger grooves.
Ron
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Colt711- Posts : 641
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Finally have a Mark III on order for the GF. Ended up with the 5.5" Target blued. $359 after shipping is not bad.
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