Target assessment request
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Re: Target assessment request
JB is not a bullet lube.
james r chapman- Admin
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Re: Target assessment request
james r chapman wrote:JB is not a bullet lube.
It sure isn’t, but thats not the intention of using it!
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LenV- Posts : 4725
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I am a left-handed shooter. How do I interpret the Shooting Chart posted by LenV for a left-handed shooter?
jshank- Posts : 89
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Here ya go…
[url=http://www.matisse.net/files/targets/left hand pistol correction target.pdf]http://www.matisse.net/files/targets/left%20hand%20pistol%20correction%20target.pdf[/url]
But actually…this is a better chart
Mostly because there are many things that can cause a shot to go out of the black NOT in the chart. Like lousy sight alignment at the shot break. Your sight alignment and wobble isn’t perfect to be difinitive that errant shots are caused by what the chart says. It also reinforces bad technique by having you chase demons that may not exist. Focus on what works and repeat that.
![Target assessment request Ef422110](https://i.servimg.com/u/f26/19/14/74/76/ef422110.jpg)
[url=http://www.matisse.net/files/targets/left hand pistol correction target.pdf]http://www.matisse.net/files/targets/left%20hand%20pistol%20correction%20target.pdf[/url]
But actually…this is a better chart
Mostly because there are many things that can cause a shot to go out of the black NOT in the chart. Like lousy sight alignment at the shot break. Your sight alignment and wobble isn’t perfect to be difinitive that errant shots are caused by what the chart says. It also reinforces bad technique by having you chase demons that may not exist. Focus on what works and repeat that.
![Target assessment request Ef422110](https://i.servimg.com/u/f26/19/14/74/76/ef422110.jpg)
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Re: Target assessment request
Ok so I have never watched you shoot before, so I have to make assumptions that may or may not be valid. I am going to disregard the wheel of misfortune, I find it is often used incorrectly. Major assumption on my analysis is that for the most part your shot process/ trigger control/ hold is "reasonable".
Group size over all looks like it is roughly "holding the black" with a flyer. Potentially your zero could be off. You mentioned the JB bore on your projectiles and it being a new thing, this could potentially cause a POI shift. Also was your natural point of aim correct?
Group size over all looks like it is roughly "holding the black" with a flyer. Potentially your zero could be off. You mentioned the JB bore on your projectiles and it being a new thing, this could potentially cause a POI shift. Also was your natural point of aim correct?
chiz1180- Posts : 1413
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jshank wrote:I am a left-handed shooter. How do I interpret the Shooting Chart posted by LenV for a left-handed shooter?
You don’t use that chart. Or any chart. There’s no telling what causes an angular error from where the hole ends up on a target. A shot in the “heeling” quadrant on the chart could be (1) classic heeling, (2) an improper trigger press inducing lateral muzzle error (not a grip or heeling error), (3) a vision issue in perception of the sights, or (4) something else (muscle tremor, nerves, bad break in a big wobble).
If you’re not aware of how you’re erring (i.e., you’re not able to consistently call shots, you don’t have enough proprioceptive awareness to feel how your hands are inducing errors), then you need to develop those skills. Thoughtful experience on .22 and air pistols will build those skills. You want to be to tell what goes wrong as it happens, so you can recognize the signs beforehand and develop the skills necessary to avoid the issues or abort pending bad shots.
JRV- Posts : 168
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hmmmm, had to look that one up! proprioceptive.
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james r chapman- Admin
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What are your shots looking like after you cleaned your bore of the JB paste and used regular lubed bullets without JB paste? If they are still the same, then I would focus more on my shot process for every shot.
Stan
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chopper wrote:What are your shots looking like after you cleaned your bore of the JB paste and used regular lubed bullets without JB paste? If they are still the same, then I would focus more on my shot process for every shot.
Stan
That day I shot:
• 60 SWCHP rounds
•100 SWCHP rounds /w JB Bore Paste on bullet base
• 40 SWCHP rounds
This is my last target as indicated by 20 in top left. I totally misplaced one of my rounds onto a target above hence the arrow pointing down:
![Target assessment request Img_5913](https://i.servimg.com/u/f74/20/55/51/48/img_5913.jpg)
I still have streaks in the barrel but haven’t shot it after cleaning it after this session. I’ll see Thursday if it’s changed. So far I’m happy my grouping isn’t all over the place like it has been before on the long line, after shooting 40-60 rounds of lead.
MkFiji- Posts : 105
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Are you shooting from a rest or just off hand? I ask because I just bought these bullets and was going to start to load them up. I have used them in the past and they seemed to be a very accurate bullet. Hope it gets better. Thanks
kohlerpartsgod- Posts : 90
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Off handkohlerpartsgod wrote:Are you shooting from a rest or just off hand? I ask because I just bought these bullets and was going to start to load them up. I have used them in the past and they seemed to be a very accurate bullet. Hope it gets better. Thanks
MkFiji- Posts : 105
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Re: Target assessment request
Sight adjustment!
paul noles- Posts : 36
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Don't think about what you may or may not be doing wrong.
Look at the 5 shots inside the 9 ring on your target marked 20. Think about EXACTLY what you did to place those shots so well. Replay those 5 shots in your mind. Do it with as much detail as you can recall. Next time work really hard to repeat the exact process that yielded those shots.
Look at the 5 shots inside the 9 ring on your target marked 20. Think about EXACTLY what you did to place those shots so well. Replay those 5 shots in your mind. Do it with as much detail as you can recall. Next time work really hard to repeat the exact process that yielded those shots.
Oleg G- Posts : 608
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I'm curious: Why are you putting JB bore paste on your bullets?
Wes Lorenz- Posts : 435
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