Newbie question, which bullet for .45 ACP .451 or .452?
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Newbie question, which bullet for .45 ACP .451 or .452?
I currently shoot factory .45 ACP but have ordered a progressive press for pistol rounds. I don't understand the significance between .451 and .452 bullets. I looked in the forum search function but didn't find an answer. As a newbie, I would not think there would be much difference in performance of a .001 diameter. Given that both are manufactured by the same manufacturers, there must be a material difference that I am missing.
My apologies if this is a repeat question asked many times before.
Thank you,
AGG
My apologies if this is a repeat question asked many times before.
Thank you,
AGG
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Re: Newbie question, which bullet for .45 ACP .451 or .452?
.451 for jacketed and .452 for lead. At least that’s the consensus. But you can generally use any bullet diameter between .450 to .454 with varying success. The loads typically used in bullseye are mild enough any spike in pressures with big diameter bullets are minimal.
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Re: Newbie question, which bullet for .45 ACP .451 or .452?
I'll add, there's some small chance loading larger than 'normal' bullets, like a 454 in an ACP ... 'MIGHT' result in the cartridge being a tighter fit in the chamber than desirable.
452 is sort of the 'standard' for lead. Also, use a proper expander ... hint ... 'Photoescape' ;-)
454 is in some way a 45 Long Colt thing ... but my single action had 457 throats ... weren't nothin' gonna fix that piece of junk.
452 is sort of the 'standard' for lead. Also, use a proper expander ... hint ... 'Photoescape' ;-)
454 is in some way a 45 Long Colt thing ... but my single action had 457 throats ... weren't nothin' gonna fix that piece of junk.
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Re: Newbie question, which bullet for .45 ACP .451 or .452?
A friend of mine that I shoot with gave me a load that has improved the accuracy of my S&W 25-2 using a 200gr SWC that is .454" diameter.
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Re: Newbie question, which bullet for .45 ACP .451 or .452?
It depends on barrel. Most stuff works well with .451-.452. Just use good practice developing your load from the start and you should be fine.
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Re: Newbie question, which bullet for .45 ACP .451 or .452?
Yes, the 25-2 cylinder throats were all over the place.messenger wrote:A friend of mine that I shoot with gave me a load that has improved the accuracy of my S&W 25-2 using a 200gr SWC that is .454" diameter.
Bill
The .454 resolved many accuracy issues
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Re: Newbie question, which bullet for .45 ACP .451 or .452?
Either if jacketed. For lead, you should slug the barrel and use a bullet at least 0.001" over measured groove diameter.
For 9x19 jacketed bullets, I load.355-.357" without issue.
For 9x19 jacketed bullets, I load.355-.357" without issue.
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Re: Newbie question, which bullet for .45 ACP .451 or .452?
I am not familiar with the term slug the barrel, can you please explain?
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AGG
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Re: Newbie question, which bullet for .45 ACP .451 or .452?
Take a pure lead ball just a bit bigger than your barrel groove diameter then drive it through the barrel. Then measure the lands on the slug as the grooves form the lands on the slug. It’s not difficult but if you haven’t done one before it can be easy to cause damage to your gun. Unless you’re dealing with a VERY old barrel I’d just assume that it’s .451 diameter.
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Re: Newbie question, which bullet for .45 ACP .451 or .452?
Use a wooden rod or similar composition to drive the lead ball if you decide to do that.
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Re: Newbie question, which bullet for .45 ACP .451 or .452?
I have two 1911's a Dan Wesson PM-7 and a Les Bare National Match both of course are .45ACP. purchased
I have four 1911's in 45 ACP. The most accurate are my Les Bare Nation Match and my Dan Wesson PM-7. It sounds like I should defer the barrel slugging to a more skilled hand.
Thank you for the explanation.
AGG
I have four 1911's in 45 ACP. The most accurate are my Les Bare Nation Match and my Dan Wesson PM-7. It sounds like I should defer the barrel slugging to a more skilled hand.
Thank you for the explanation.
AGG
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Re: Newbie question, which bullet for .45 ACP .451 or .452?
Or take a swaged bullet and lightly hammer it a little shorter and fatter to slug a barrel
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