Practice!!

Nice thing about the Victor model is you can mount a dot on it!!!

Jim, I preferred to hang mine out the back! My "winter home" training tool - that I do not use enough! Listone sell these all over the world with many brand names - mine is a "Wolf".

Tell me more about this please.

Where to find, how much etc….new shooters need these

Thanks

My CO2 "Wolf" is not in USA.

Almost identical Alfa Proj PCP is sold by Pyramid Air for $1,200, but I think that is over-priced. Jim may know a cheaper source

A slightly different option for practice. Doesn't help Roy, and it isn't cheap, but really provides good feedback, plus an actual "score", which makes dry firing way more fun. Because it uses a camera, the score is much more meaningful than other dry fire trainers.



Dave

bruce martindale wrote:Tell me more about this please.

Where to find, how much etc….new shooters need these

Thanks

That’s a good question! They were available from Canada, but  I don’t see them now!
They were an economical alternative to the much more expensive A Proj !

Interesting. Just did a bit of searching and it seems that very few Listone Victors got into the USA - some came from Canada and some were samples brought in by a potential distributor who decided not to proceed. At the time the typical asking price was $250 or less.

The Alfa Proj (distributed in USA by Pyramid Air) is, as best I can tell, just a 100% clone of the Victor and almost certainly made by Listone in Taiwan, but somehow channeled through Czech Republic. At $1,200 there must be quite a fat margin for both the USA and Czech steps in the supply chain!

I bought mine in an "Airsoft" market in Bangkok, Thailand. but I know that they are widely available in several countries in Asia (notably Hong Kong). I have not investigated cost and rules re' import to USA, but I doubt that there should be a problem to mail order one from the many online dealers in Hong Kong.

The OEM grips are nasty (I carved my own from Balsa wood), but the sights and trigger are quite good and mine seems to be quite accurate. It blows through the little CO2 "sparklets" bulbs pretty fast though.

Here’s a thought!
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Nice! No doubt made in the same factory in Taiwan.

Krale are very reliable too.

I actually contacted Listone via email about purchasing both the Victor and their lap-1 which is a copy of the Walther ap20 for the most part..
https://taiwan-airgun.com/en/product_description.php?PNo=107


they also have the Snowflake PP20 

https://taiwan-airgun.com/en/product_description.php?PNo=124

they sent a price sheet and I purchased both pistols. shipping wasn't that bad and was in pieces so to speak, so they could ship them as parts( )  customs deal I think

think the Victor was around 100 and the Lap-1 was 300.. Been a few years so they probably have gone up like everything

both pistols have been perfect and shoot pretty well

Looks like pyramid air is offering a version too. 

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/air-venturi-comp10-match-pcp-air-pistol?m=4783

Looks like ap20 clones. Good beginner price.