Gunsmith for S&W Model 41

Any suggestions for a good Bullseye style gunsmith for a Model 41?
In or near Phoenix is a bonus.

It's one of the newer ones and the trigger is too light, won't pick up a 2# weight. I moved the little trigger lever and it didn't help. Not sure it actually did anything.

Thanks for any suggestions!

Dr.Bill wrote:Any suggestions for a good Bullseye style gunsmith for a Model 41?
In or near Phoenix is a bonus.

It's one of the newer ones and the trigger is too light, won't pick up a 2# weight. I moved the little trigger lever and it didn't help. Not sure it actually did anything.

Thanks for any suggestions!

 I used KC Crawford for work on my model 46, same working parts as a 41, and he did a great job.  He is on this forum.  I think he is very busy but you can reach out and see.  Good luck.

Frank Glenn is right in your state.  His backlog is not terrible right now.

inthebeech wrote:Frank Glenn is right in your state.  His backlog is not terrible right now.

Unfortunately, he said he 'cannot help with this project'.
Doesn't do bullseye guns maybe?

I contacted him quite a while ago, and he said he wasn't taking on any more work.

The best instructions I've found on the 41 are here:

https://guntalk-online.com/Model41maintenance.htm

The little stepped wedge should do something, unless the forward tail of the trigger spring isn't actually resting on top of the wedge.  

You can also try asking about this on the S&W forum:

https://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/

What gwhite said above, the instructions in his first link are what I used to adjust mine.  It is an older 41, maybe early 2000.  When I got it, the trigger was about 1# 10 oz., I was able to get it up to about 2.5# using the adjustment lever.  It should do something, as long is the spring is o.k. and in the proper position.

David Sams works on SW 41 and other bullseye work. He is a retired AMU shooting team armorer.

http://www.samscustomgunworksusa.com/blank-5/

Kc Crawford is the man to work your 41.

Alex Hamilton / TenRing precision.  Good work, nice guy.

https://tenring.com/ruger-mark-ii-govt-model-rimfire-22-accuracy/

Thanks for all the suggestions.
It's now on the way to Alex Hamilton. He did a few things for me way back when I was on the AF team.

For a short time, I also had a David Sams Beretta service pistol. You really can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear.

Dr.Bill wrote:Thanks for all the suggestions.
It's now on the way to Alex Hamilton. He did a few things for me way back when I was on the AF team.

For a short time, I also had a David Sams Beretta service pistol. You really can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear.

Good choice.  Ten Ring or Sams Custom are the only ones I'd let work on a 41.  They both can reline the very poor factory barrels and turn them into tack drivers.

Dr.Bill wrote:Thanks for all the suggestions.
It's now on the way to Alex Hamilton. He did a few things for me way back when I was on the AF team.

For a short time, I also had a David Sams Beretta service pistol. You really can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear.

Just a trip down memory lane: I think that I used to shoot 2700's with you at Camp Bullis when LTC (retired) Ralph Talbot was running them. Ralph was heavily involved with Alex when Alex was just starting to seriously work on bullseye pistols. Ralph did all the machine rest groups for Alex, back then, too. I had Alex do some work for me. He is talented and honest.

BE Mike wrote:

Dr.Bill wrote:Thanks for all the suggestions.
It's now on the way to Alex Hamilton. He did a few things for me way back when I was on the AF team.

For a short time, I also had a David Sams Beretta service pistol. You really can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear.

Just a trip down memory lane: I think that I used to shoot 2700's with you at Camp Bullis when LTC (retired) Ralph Talbot was running them. Ralph was heavily involved with Alex when Alex was just starting to seriously work on bullseye pistols. Ralph did all the machine rest groups for Alex, back then, too. I had Alex do some work for me. He is talented and honest.

I was at Wilford Hall from 1990 to 1999 and made it to many of the matches at Camp Bullis. I think I saw my first coral snake there.
I was even able to beat Ralph a few times, but not often.

An update:

I sent the brand new Model 41 to Alex Hamilton. I had him put a Hammerli barrel in it.
To get the trigger to pick up 2#, he had to install a new sear. On a brand new gun from the factory!! I don't know if they got the angle wrong, poor heat treat, or whatever. Should not happen.

Stamped parts ...  'break', that leaves a rough angled surface. Need a subsequent 'shaving' operation, or preferably grinding to get a usable surface.

'Fine Blanking', much more expensive for tooling, and probably not good enough either.

I think ... ummm, who's making replacement parts? ... are using wire EDM ... good square edges, but still need honing ...

Never mind stupid expensive... but at a realistic volume... likely the cheapest option.