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Post by javaduke Thu Oct 10, 2024 11:33 am

I know it's a long shot, but maybe someone knows a good source for .45 barrel blanks? Everywhere I looked is either out of stock or they require minimum order of 100s of them. What I'm looking for is 6" blank, preferably 4140, 1" or 3/4" in diameter, 1:16 twist. Yeah, you guessed it right, I'm exploring a possibility of making barrels for Dragon from scratch rather than from the existing barrels.

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Post by james r chapman Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:44 pm

Maybe
https://newsite.alscustom.com/revolvers/#barrels
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Post by fc60 Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:48 pm

Greetings,

Consider this.

Barrel blanks are, at the most, 36 HRC in Stainless.

From the Crucible 416R DataSheet...

Crucible 416R is a pre-hardened chromium stainless steel
which is suitable for use in precision match-grade rifle barrels.
It can be supplied in various hardness ranges according to
your specific requirements ( HRC 24/28, 28/32, or 32/36).

About 28 HRC in CrMo.

A 1911 CrMo barrel is heat treated to 40+ HRC

Cheers,

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Post by WesG Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:47 pm

I think you can get 416 up to about 45, but you're on your own as to heat treating and the end results...

FWIW, it machines beautifully with either carbide or HSS at that hardness. One of my fav's for misc tooling and parts that need to be fairly hard.

The other option is vacuum HT after machining. I like that finish even better. At some point I'll do a test run at a HT shop down the road here, and see if they can match what I've got from Byington in Santa Clara.

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Post by RoyDean Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:48 pm

Eugene. Please talk directly with Dave and Scott. I can provide numbers. These boys know their business!

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Post by RoyDean Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:53 pm

Oh, and by the way, if they direct you to a better barrel than the match BarSto now on its way, sell that to another punter and give me the #1, of course🥰🥰🥰👍👿

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Post by javaduke Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:10 am

RoyDean wrote:Oh, and by the way, if they direct you to a better barrel than the match BarSto now on its way, sell that to another punter and give me the #1, of course🥰🥰🥰👍👿
Don't worry, my friend, you are going to get the creme de la creme, with all the bells and whistles, a bespoke suit from Savile Row and a personal approval of His Royal Majesty.

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Post by PhotoEscape Fri Oct 11, 2024 1:38 pm

javaduke wrote:
RoyDean wrote:Oh, and by the way, if they direct you to a better barrel than the match BarSto now on its way, sell that to another punter and give me the #1, of course🥰🥰🥰👍👿
Don't worry, my friend, you are going to get the creme de la creme, with all the bells and whistles, a bespoke suit from Savile Row and a personal approval of His Royal Majesty.
Hm..... I thought that Roy orders everything in triples.  Do you mean, that he gets all this treatment just for one, Eugene?

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Post by 10sandxs Fri Oct 11, 2024 2:26 pm

Have you talked to Luke at KKM??? He's cut some really non standard stuff for me.

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Post by Wes Lorenz Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:53 pm

A word of caution on 416R Stainless. It is classified as un-weldable due to the amount of sulfur in it to make it "free machining."
It looks like you TIG weld a couple of tacks on the vent tubes by the muzzle.
Note: I weld my 4140 alloy 45 frames with RG45 gas rod due to it's elasticity. It's considered appropriate to preheat before welding.
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