Swagged versus Hard Cast Lead Bullets - Opinions?

I noticed that Magnus and Roze also has hollow point LSWC bullets.  Never saw those before, only the jacket type.  What advantage do they have in BE if any?

Rob Kovach wrote:Leading is related to a relationship between hardness of the projectile vs. how hard/fast you push the projectile.  When you are pushing the bullet nice and slow like we do, you want a soft projectile--so swaged lead is good for our application.

Yes, swaged bullets are very good for our application.  However, ONE of the most important factors is the fit between the bullet and the bore.  The bullet should be .001-.002 larger than the bore diameter.  Bullet hardness comes a distant second.  Remember when Elmer Keith was developing the 44 mag, he was using hard bullets (at the time a BNH of 11-12 was considered hard) and didn't have issues because he was aware of the importance of fit.

For some action pistol shooters who need to push fast velocities, they are looking for cast lead that is harder cast--like 24 Brinnell.  The softer lead will foul the barrel at high velocity but the hard bullets are fine.

Hard is ok...as long as the bullets are larger than the grooves by 1-2 thousandths. Don't try them if they're undersized, you'll be mining lead.

http://www.rozedist.com/ is another source for good swaged bullets.

I've been doing some Ransom testing with both the 185 SHP and 200 SWC in several of my wad guns.  Both show promise.  They shoot as well as my best hand cast H&G 68bb.

Fancy bullets only show their advantages at the long line.

This!  Along with the best of your cast bullets, properly fit to the bore and having perfect bases.

It's my opinion that I need to be cleaning my short line more often before I start worrying about fancier bullets.

Also dead on!

Al

DavidR wrote:are you using the swc side of the seating die insert? it can be flipped from swc to round nose. as for cheaper swagged 185s like zero sells try delta precision.

Magnusbullets wrote:Before I purchased Magnus bullets,,,, I used the 200swc at 50yd and our old 185 button nose at 25yd.
Loaded on rcbs green machine . 2658 my high ,, many high master scores for over a decade. Mixed brass mostly.
Ransomed the guns and ammo every few months to insure accuracy. Long before swaged became popular.
Won several regional and state matches, on ultra dot team and Springfield teams.
Hard cast will do the job, spend time on training, shoot matches, all matches you can, bullseye is mostly a head game. Get a load the gun likes, and you trust. Then shoot. We give discount to shooters.