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CMP EIC Clarification on Jacketed Bullet Rule

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Post by Rob Kovach Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:38 pm

I received a clarification already.  I sent the CMP this photo of 2 different "jacketed" bullets--one a Nosler 185Gr JHP that isn't jacketed on the tip and the other a ZERO 230gr FMJ that isn't jacketed on the base.

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And here's CMP's response:

Rob,

Both styles of jacketed projectiles are acceptable under 6.6.2 Pistol Ammunition. 
Best Regards, 
Mark Johnson
Chief Operating Officer
Civilian Marksmanship Program
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Post by Steve B Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:31 pm

Thanks Rob.

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Post by beeser Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:41 pm

Clever way of posing the question.

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Post by LenV Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:09 pm

I wish I could figure out how to post this picture. I will just share the link and someone younger can post maybe? The title says " 200gr full metal jacket combat target" This is the bullet I would like to see if it is legal. Doesn't say anything about being a WC.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/716718/hornady-bullets-45-caliber-451-diameter-200-grain-full-metal-jacket-combat-target?cm_vc=wishList
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Post by DavidR Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:26 pm

CMP EIC Clarification on Jacketed Bullet Rule 6096-910
that is a semi wad cutter bullet, there are no true wad cutters for the 45, mostly see them in 32 and 38. this is what a wad cutter bullet looks like
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Post by LenV Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:42 pm

DavidR

  I know it is a SWC and you know it is a SWC. My question was really to the CMP. Do they know it is a SWC and not a true wad cutter and will they be allowed? I picked that bullet because it doesn't have wad cutter anywhere in its title "noun nomenclature".

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Post by kc.crawford.7 Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:16 pm

Master, yes it will be legal.  SWC isn't the "issue", JACKETED is the requirement.  The Hornady bullet you referenced is a jacketed bullet and would therefore be legal under the new rules.
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Post by beeser Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:03 pm

I don't get it.  Why are they making an issue over jacketed bullets?  What's wrong with non-jacketed bullets as it relates to the competition?  Is it just an arbitrary decision?

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Post by Jack H Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:29 pm

6.6.2.....

Service Pistol. Service Pistol competitors may use any safe ammunition



that is loaded with metal-jacketed bullets. Non-jacketed, wad-cutter or



lead bullets may not be used.













From this I read that JRN, JHP, JSWC, JTC, all would be legal









Also I read:



Illegal - lead anything, plated anything, full WC anything







Am  right!
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Post by C.Perkins Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:31 pm

Reading the rules at first glance and not over thinking it.
Allowed is jacketed ammo in either full metal jacket, jacketed hollow point and jacketed semi wad cutter(button nosed to some).

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Post by DavidR Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:41 pm

they just are trying to keep the playing field a little more level because polygonal barreled guns like glocks are not recommended to be used with lead bullets. And long time tradition of cmp requiring fmj ammo, but the rules say any jacketed bullet, they only rule out bullets of any type in lead the way I read it
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