Is this DSR legal

I have read 3.1.4 a bunch of times and I don't see why it wouldn't be with the existing rules. The only thing that might DQ it is the barrel weights but the only mention of weights in 3.1.4 talks about grip weights. I wouldn't want to put out this kind of bucks for another Reeves gun. Model SW170319FC  http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_766129_-1_757896_757751_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

Len

If that's how that gun comes from the factory, I would say it's legal.

Possible problem, the trigger stop is external.

SORRY IT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.
(f) The following are not allowed. Trigger shoes, compensators of type or design; any external trigger stop device; any internal trigger stop not originally installed by the factory as original equipment in stock revolvers of the same make and model; tape on
the stocks or stocks flared at the base.



EXTERNAL TRIGGER STOP IN STOCK REVOLVERS OF SAME MAKE AND MODEL. STANDARD 686'S DO NOT HAVE THE TRIGGER STOP. JP

Sorry in advance but I need to ask.  What is DSR?

lablover wrote:Sorry in advance but I need to ask.  What is DSR?

Distinguished Service Revolver



Bruce

Thanks

Rob Kovach wrote:If that's how that gun comes from the factory, I would say it's legal.

Performance Center, essentially a custom shop attached to the production facility. I don't see where a PC gun is really different from any other custom gun in regards to the rules of competition.

One could argue the point that any and every gun is a factory gun, just sometimes it is a really small factory but.....

It seems that DSR (like so many other types of 'stock' competition) begins with the premise that one competes head to head with others, all using 'standard' production guns rather than expensive, customized ones. Then the 'gamesmanship' of 'what can I get away with and still be production' begins. Then it becomes much like 'NASCAR' (the traditional home of cheating) where you can't win unless you cheat* at least as much as the 'other guy.'

I like 'nice' guns and enjoy making them better or having someone else do it so that they shoot better. It just seems (to me) that something like a DSR gun ought to be a real, off the production line, shot the way they built it gun.

YMMV


Bruce

*Bend or tweak the rules 'just a little'

Pretty clearly it has an external trigger stop. Pretty clearly external trigger stops are not allowed regardless of factory installation, or, as an eraser glued to the back of the trigger.

IMHO.

I know I'm the new guy but the way I read it..See bold  It should be ok?




(f) The following are not allowed. Trigger shoes, compensa
-
tors of type or design; any external trigger stop device; any inter
-
nal trigger stop "not originally installed by the factory as original
equipment in stock revolvers of the same make and model; tape on
the stocks or stocks flared at the base.

lablover wrote:I know I'm the new guy but the way I read it..See bold  It should be ok?




(f) The following are not allowed. Trigger shoes, compensa
-
tors of type or design; any external trigger stop device; any inter
-
nal trigger stop "not originally installed by the factory as original
equipment in stock revolvers of the same make and model; tape on
the stocks or stocks flared at the base.

Except the 686 (non performance shop) does not come with the trigger stop.

Having said that it's easy enough to order without the trigger stop - or just remove the screw.

- Dave

The external and internal trigger stops are different animals in the rules. The first (external) isn't allowed under any circumstances. The second (internal) is allowed if revolvers of the same make and model could have had them equipped at the factory when new.

BE Mike wrote:The external and internal trigger stops are different animals in the rules. The first (external) isn't allowed under any circumstances. The second (internal) is allowed if revolvers of the same make and model could have had them equipped at the factory when new.

+1

Interesting read sight also.

Thanks for all the feedback everyone. It looks like it would be legal just by removing the trigger stop screw. At least that would appear to be the only sticker. I never noticed the screw. I was more concerned with the add on/off weights being the problem.

Len

I'd check specifically with the NRA before making a $1700 mistake..,

DSR ?

Where is "Service" in the rule:

3.1.4 Distinguished Revolver

I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A SCREW. ISN'T IT A ROLL PIN? JP

I wish I would of never looked at this..Now I want a darn revolver...LOL

Regardless, that would fall under "no parts removed"

JIMPGOV wrote:I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A SCREW. ISN'T IT A ROLL PIN? JP

I think the internal stop is a pin fit into the rebound plunger
External should be a screw

SHOULD BE A ROLL PIN. IT'S A ROLL PIN ON MY PC F-COMP, AND IT'S A ROLL PIN ON THE PC SSR 4". SEVERAL GUYS BOUGHT THE PC SSR 4" AND TRIED TO USE THEM AT THE POLICE NATIONALS FOR THE SERVICE MATCH AND THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED EITHER. SORRY STEVE THE SCREWS ON AND THRU THE TRIGGERS WE'RE DONE BY AFTER MARKET GUNS SMITHS. BUT YOU WERE CORRECT THE INTERNAL TRIGGER STOP BY S&W WAS A PIN  ( S&W PRODUCT # 075000000). JP

I guess that's one way to keep me from tinkering with it.

internal generally would be legal. I agree with Jimpgov.

But, also, the NRA Law Enforcement rules for production and the NRA Precision Pistol rules for production do not coexist very well. The very nice Weigand replacement rear sight blade is allowed on production S&W's by the LE Division, but, NOT by the Precision  Pistol Division.