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1911/45 wadcutter 1 X14 twist Douglas being born..

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Post by Jerry Keefer Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:08 pm

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Post by Chris Miceli Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:59 pm

Way cool!  Can't wait for the range report.

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Post by Fire Escape Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:00 pm

Thank You!

My machine operator time was many decades ago and measured in days. Still, I am captivated by the pictures of the work you do. It is light years beyond 'every day' machining and I really appreciate being able to 'work' vicariously through your photographs!

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Post by HenryA Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:02 am

Oh yes!
Keep it comin'.

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Post by s1120 Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:25 am

Not much better then watching chips fly!!!

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Post by james r chapman Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:23 am

It reminds me of watching gagemakers and old school toolmakers back in the '70's.

A vastly lost art currently.
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Post by Jack H Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:14 am

Would that grease there in the third picture make a good gun lube?  Smile
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Post by Jerry Keefer Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:44 am

Jack H wrote:Would that grease there in the third picture make a good gun lube?  Smile

Jack, that is old, as in very old,  Lubri Plate that I have had since my military machine gun days of the early 1960s...Smile

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Post by fc60 Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:06 am

Greetings Jerry,

What diameter and brand is the barrel blank? Looks like Chrome Moly, am I correct?

Cheers,

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Post by Jerry Keefer Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:55 pm

fc60 wrote:Greetings Jerry,

What diameter and brand is the barrel blank? Looks like Chrome Moly, am I correct?

Cheers,

Dave
Hello Dave
Yes,   it is CM and it's a Douglas 1-7/8 inch  OD
Allows enough stock for the lower lug..
On the 52 I can squeak by with 1-5/16ths OD but,  it just does make it for the lower lug.. No room for a mistake..
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Post by Chris Miceli Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:57 pm

Jerry, what bullets and FPS do you predict will work best with the 1:14 twist?

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Post by Jerry Keefer Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:54 pm

Christopher Miceli wrote:Jerry, what bullets and FPS do you predict will work best with the 1:14 twist?
I am  thinking that,  lead projectiles will benefit from the enhanced land / groove ratio while traveling in the 690/700 fps range for long line. Although, in the past I had a 14 twist barrel from the same blank, that shot amazing groups with Zero 185 JHP at around 750 fps from the barrel tester. I was told that Zero had a copy of the target on display at Perry that year..
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Post by Jerry Keefer Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:26 am

Lower lug day..
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Post by JayhawkNavy02 Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:14 pm

Jerry Keefer wrote:
Christopher Miceli wrote:Jerry, what bullets and FPS do you predict will work best with the 1:14 twist?
I am  thinking that,  lead projectiles will benefit from the enhanced land / groove ratio while traveling in the 690/700 fps range for long line. Although, in the past I had a 14 twist barrel from the same blank, that shot amazing groups with Zero 185 JHP at around 750 fps from the barrel tester. I was told that Zero had a copy of the target on display at Perry that year..

Jerry do you have a photo you can post of that target?  I've heard rumors of this white unicorn...lol
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Post by Jerry Keefer Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:56 pm

JayhawkNavy02 wrote:
Jerry Keefer wrote: Although, in the past I had a 14 twist barrel from the same blank, that shot amazing groups with Zero 185 JHP at around 750 fps from the barrel tester. I was told that Zero had a copy of the target on display at Perry that year..

Jerry do you have a photo you can post of that target?  I've heard rumors of this white unicorn...lol
There are 15 shots in that cluster.. It measures .835 approx.  Zero 185 JHP with 4.8 700X mixed random  brass...
 1X14 twist Douglas.
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Post by Chris Miceli Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:57 pm

From barrel tester Jerry?

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Post by Jerry Keefer Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:11 pm

Christopher Miceli wrote:From barrel tester Jerry?
Yes... Never checked it in  a gun..
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Post by JayhawkNavy02 Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:56 pm

That's the one!
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Post by Chris Miceli Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:55 pm

I can't wait to see the final product.

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Post by Jerry Keefer Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:18 pm

Dialed in the upper and lower lug today.. I'll probably shorten the length to two lug width.. Still thinkin..
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Post by ChipEck Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:48 pm

Jerry Keefer wrote:
JayhawkNavy02 wrote:
Jerry Keefer wrote: Although, in the past I had a 14 twist barrel from the same blank, that shot amazing groups with Zero 185 JHP at around 750 fps from the barrel tester. I was told that Zero had a copy of the target on display at Perry that year..

Jerry do you have a photo you can post of that target?  I've heard rumors of this white unicorn...lol
There are 15 shots in that cluster.. It measures .835 approx.  Zero 185 JHP with 4.8 700X mixed random  brass...
 1X14 twist Douglas.
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Holy cow! Impressive.  Without the picture I am not sure if I would have believed it was possible.  Certainly was not shooting MY reloads. :-)
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Post by Jerry Keefer Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:58 pm

Zero told me their ammo test barrels produce very similar or slightly better groups..
My barrel tester is quite robust, so it gives a very good representation of the capability of the barrel.
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Post by Jon Eulette Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:51 pm

Dang......integral cone! Yee haw!
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Post by Jerry Keefer Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:01 pm

Jon Eulette wrote:Dang......integral cone! Yee haw!
Jon
I am telling everyone it's a seamless fit..SmileSmile
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