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Post by Pat Capobianco Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:45 am

Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum just purchased a S&W Victory which I love, just wondering if there is a preferred ammo for greatest accuracy?
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Post by Chris Miceli Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:52 am

Standard velocity for sure. CCI,SK,Eley,Wolf will all group well.  But test each through your gun to find the ideal brand.


Also eley and lapua have test facilities you can send your pistol to.  They will find the most accurate ammo and lot for your gun.

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Post by BaldingEagle Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:59 am

Pat
As a beginner myself, I think that for the 25yd line you will find that any ammo will perform for you. When you stretch it out to 50 yds is when ammo choice becomes critical.  I would say to master the 25yd line with the cheapest ammo you can get your hands on.  I have found that by "cheap" you are looking at .09 to .10 cents per round.  I am still trying to shoot above a 75 at the 25yd line.  I'm right around 75-80.  I want to get above Marksman by the time the winter leagues start.
Good luck and all the best to you!
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Post by Tim:H11 Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:18 pm

What ever it is shoot lead. That copper wash stuff is ok for 25 but a lead bullet is better at 50 on my experience. Standard velocity. CCI Standard is a very popular one amongst bullseye shooters and my 41 does excellent with Wolf Match Target.
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Post by Jerry Keefer Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:11 pm

You defined it with "greatest accuracy"...  equates to---  Eley red box..
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Post by dronning Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:12 pm

Jerry Keefer wrote:You defined it with "greatest accuracy"...  equates to---  Eley red box..
 +1  Eley RB is the best of the best.

BUT until your are a High Master and your X count is critical,  CCI SV, Wolf, SK... will all do the job at 1/3 the price.  

Test with your gun for both accuracy and function to see if there is one that stands out.  During your testing when you change ammo make sure you fire several clearing rounds with the new ammo before you start shooting for group.  This is a big deal with rifles but only sometimes matters with pistols.

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Post by DavidR Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:58 pm

First find what you can get an afford, red box tenex is likely not one of them at 22 bucks a box, next of the ones selected find what shoots each and every time with no failure from the gun or the bullet, Remington and Winchester are known to have many duds forget these two altogether , now if you still have a choice shoot them off a bench and take the one that shoots the best 25 yd group. Now practice!

Some good brands under 8.00 a box
CCI Standard
aguila Super extra SV
federal match bulk box of 325
norma tac 22 and tac 22 match
eley target
eley club
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Post by gweber Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:13 pm

I have tested a lot of 22 ammo in my Pardini. The gun has gotten good results with straight Eley tenex = 0.7", Lapua Midas +(ammo received at the mayleigh cup this year) = 0.5", SK standard plus = 0.8", CCI standard velocity = 1.2". All groups were fired from a sand bag rest at 50 yds.

I personally use Eley Tenex at 50 yds because of my calls and consistency. I use SK standard plus or CCI standard velocity at 25yds and for indoor season (50ft).

This is just my 2cents. Try a box of 50 or a brick of ammo of a bunch of different ammo and see what shoots best in you pistol. Each pistol is different. Also budget plays a roll as well.

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Post by LenV Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:21 pm

They have this in stock. It might be a little fast but the Victory would handle it with no problem.

https://massammo.com/federal-automatch-22lr-40gr-3250rd-case.html
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Post by C.Perkins Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:46 pm

Eley red box, Eley black box and Eley yellow box.
Red box has always been the best.
Had some black box that shoots very well but have and looking for a LOT# of Target yellow box that was almost as good as the red box, but cannot find it.

My .22 ammo consists of Eley, Center X and CCI-sv

Used to shoot others but settled on what works the best with what I shoot it through.

You need to experiment like the rest of us do to get the most accurate ammo in your pistol.

Good luck;
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Post by orpheoet Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:56 pm

Another vote for CCI SV. Eley Club seems slightly tighter from my M41 and my Hammerli. I haven't tried anything better than Club because as an Expert why would I! If and when I start averaging mid 90's slow fires I'll worry about the big money .22 ammo.....
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Post by BE Mike Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:19 am

If you aren't scared of high prices, I'd try some CCI Pistol Match. The best machine rest group I ever got with my Hammerli 208s was with CCI PM. I tried various Eley and Lapua, but the pistol shined with the CCI Pistol Match. It's a heck of a lot cheaper than any Eley (even Eley Club).
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Post by Mac2 Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:15 pm

I shoot CCI SV in Victory and it makes small groups.  My wife has been shooting TAC-22 (Norma) in her Victory - I think TAC-22 is just a bit faster and seems to help her recovery.  We are both using the light-weight barrel and red-dot sights.
What we have found to be needed when shooting Victory is to have at hand a 1/8 inch and 3/32 inch T wrench to check at frequent intervals the barrel attachment bolt and the rail attachment bolt.  If using the light-weight barrel, one must check the tread-protector as it gets loose.

One could use blue lock-tight, but then it become an issue when cleaning.

As everyone will tell you, test ammo.  Most will be fine at 25 yards.  The best will be OK at 50 yards.

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Post by Pat Capobianco Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:29 am

Mac2 wrote:I shoot CCI SV in Victory and it makes small groups.  My wife has been shooting TAC-22 (Norma) in her Victory - I think TAC-22 is just a bit faster and seems to help her recovery.  We are both using the light-weight barrel and red-dot sights.
What we have found to be needed when shooting Victory is to have at hand a 1/8 inch and 3/32 inch T wrench to check at frequent intervals the barrel attachment bolt and the rail attachment bolt.  If using the light-weight barrel, one must check the tread-protector as it gets loose.

One could use blue lock-tight, but then it become an issue when cleaning.

As everyone will tell you, test ammo.  Most will be fine at 25 yards.  The best will be OK at 50 yards.

When you mentioned light-weight barrel, I'm assuming you have the Volquartsen carbon fiber? How does compare in accuracy to the stock barrel? I'm considering a barrel from Volquartsen too not sure which one I'm going to go with. Do you have the compensator on the barrel?
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Post by dronning Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:45 am

Pat Capobianco wrote:When you mentioned light-weight barrel, I'm assuming you have the Volquartsen carbon fiber? How does compare in accuracy to the stock barrel? I'm considering a barrel from Volquartsen too not sure which one I'm going to go with. Do you have the compensator on the barrel?

Not the same gun but I would NOT go with a light barrel.  I have a lightweight barrel on a Buckmark (TacSol) and it is MUCH harder to control in timed and rapid than the standard bull barrel.   With the std bull barrel the sights never leave the black and the wobble seems much less too.
JMHO

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I have never had a Volquartsen that wasn't dead nuts accurate and that includes several rifles and pistols (all Rugers)!

Also a compensator will make it illegal for EIC matches.  IMHO a compensator on a 22 is just a noise maker and really doesn't do anything else - unless you are using it's weight to balance the gun.
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Post by Mac2 Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:18 am

Dam the new Windows 10!   I hit a key that made my long response disappear.  Best try to send short.

Yes:   Volquartsen carbon fiber barrel is being used.  Stock barrel was accurate with iron sights and some old Elley at 25 yards, and I could hit, without evaluation, 16 inch gong at 50 yards.  New Volquartsen carbon fiber barrel seems to be as accurate, but without serious testing I am not able to put a number to the difference.  While testing a tube-type, very small-dot, red-dot sight on the Victory, I had no difficulty hitting 6" disks on a dueling tree at 25 yards with CCI SV.  That sight was wrong for bowling pin matches.  Need a very large dot for those matches.

I think that both barrels are accurate.  The Volquartsen carbon fiber barrel was found to be better for Bowling pin matches and note that it needs a red-dot sight.

Tailor the Victory to your goals - as we (and many others) have done.  Great starter for Bullseye matches.  Much better than the Buckmark that I stared with.  The Ruger needs a lot of work to be usable and I do not suggest going that way.  But shoot the pistols of other shooters and find what works for you. 

Test ammo.  Buy ammo - lots of ammo that works for you.  Election sure looks as if anything having to do with firearms will be in for a bad four (or more) years.  If you find an interest in the center-fire (CF) part of Bullseye, find a pistol that works for you with help of local shooters.  Buy it before the expected big sell-off of everything in the gun store as the election gets more close.  Lots of great help on this site.   Keep us posted.   Mac

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