Size/deprime/bell before clean
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Chris Miceli
kjanracing
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Gary Wells
Russ OR
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Size/deprime/bell before clean
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Depriming before SSpin or sonic cleaning: - If you do this on a progressive reloader, why not size and bell at the same time?
I wedge the powder funnel in the up position so the powder bar isn't moving/wearing.
Fired, dirty Brass:
1st -Spritz a little Remoil spray on an old towel-toss some (100±?) or so cases on it. - Fold the towel over top & quickly (on flat surface) roll the brass between.-Dump.- Repeat. Takes little time - slightly cleans & sorta lubes the brass for sizing. - Discard towel after a few batches.-
Hand prime - or prime on machine as you reload. - Loading with clean pre-sized, pre-belled brass (maybe even pre-primed) is smooth.
Last couple batches of SS pin cleaned brass, I used STM Tarnish inhibitor after.-It's early, but I think I like it.
I think STM pins are best - consistent length. -It's the one brand pins (of 3) that I don't think I've ever had one stuck in a primer pocket. -- -Russ
Depriming before SSpin or sonic cleaning: - If you do this on a progressive reloader, why not size and bell at the same time?
I wedge the powder funnel in the up position so the powder bar isn't moving/wearing.
Fired, dirty Brass:
1st -Spritz a little Remoil spray on an old towel-toss some (100±?) or so cases on it. - Fold the towel over top & quickly (on flat surface) roll the brass between.-Dump.- Repeat. Takes little time - slightly cleans & sorta lubes the brass for sizing. - Discard towel after a few batches.-
Hand prime - or prime on machine as you reload. - Loading with clean pre-sized, pre-belled brass (maybe even pre-primed) is smooth.
Last couple batches of SS pin cleaned brass, I used STM Tarnish inhibitor after.-It's early, but I think I like it.
I think STM pins are best - consistent length. -It's the one brand pins (of 3) that I don't think I've ever had one stuck in a primer pocket. -- -Russ
Russ OR- Posts : 269
Join date : 2011-06-10
Location : Oregon City, OR
Re: Size/deprime/bell before clean
I re-load in a very similar fashion. Even though I re-load single stage on a Dillon 550 I prefer to prepare my cases in the following manner: De-cap & size, clean by vibrator with Nu-Finish & media, tumble to remove all media, visually inspect & maybe case gage, & store for next reload session. This system works very well for me, but probably not for others that like to load in a quicker style.
Gary Wells- Posts : 370
Join date : 2015-09-07
Re: Size/deprime/bell before clean
For pistol pins are not necessary. In rifle pins can stick inside the case and you don't want one going down the barrel of your rifle. So I don't use pins.
YMMV.
YMMV.
Wobbley- Admin
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Re: Size/deprime/bell before clean
What are the pins you are speaking of?
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kjanracing- Posts : 410
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Re: Size/deprime/bell before clean
Maybe the SS cleaning pins? I'm OCD but way too lazy to try and wet clean.
Gary Wells- Posts : 370
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Re: Size/deprime/bell before clean
I only use new brass @ 50. Throw fired brass in wet media tumbler. Dry and start reloading on the star or 550
Chris Miceli- Posts : 2715
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Re: Size/deprime/bell before clean
Does anyone have significant data on using only new brass at 50?
Jack H- Posts : 2699
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Re: Size/deprime/bell before clean
Jack H wrote:Does anyone have significant data on using only new brass at 50?
It's cheap enough, and I only use it at matches so 1,000 will last me the year.
Chris Miceli- Posts : 2715
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Re: Size/deprime/bell before clean
Chris Miceli wrote:I only use new brass @ 50. Throw fired brass in wet media tumbler. Dry and start reloading on the star or 550
I was thinking the same thing. Granted I can in no way shoot good enough to see a difference, but being that all my 38spc, and 45 brass, is old, mix and match, a little bit of everything, I think its time to start working with some known brass...
s1120- Posts : 332
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Re: Size/deprime/bell before clean
We know from rifle shooting that accuracy falls off after 4 firings. But some claim that the drop is faster in as few as two firings. My experience of over 30 years of rifle was that at 4 firings I either annealed or relegated the brass to "less important matches".Jack H wrote:Does anyone have significant data on using only new brass at 50?
My technique for pistol is to use brass for 3 firings at the 50 yard line from new. Then to the 25 yard line bin. I just bought 500 new cases. I'm going to load my last 185 gr. Winchester FMJWC bullets in these and shoot them only at 50.
Wobbley- Admin
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Re: Size/deprime/bell before clean
New pistol brass has two things going for it typically.
consistent length( think consistent crimp )
long length ( think headspace )
consistent length( think consistent crimp )
long length ( think headspace )
jglenn21- Posts : 2620
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Re: Size/deprime/bell before clean
Fresh Brass is good for a 1/8 to 1/2 inch at 50 Yards. I think Jon Eulette did a study. After 1x there is no meaningful difference between newer and used brass.
Another study, I forget by whom said the only thing in case prep that makes a difference in accuracy are clean primer pockets.
Another study, I forget by whom said the only thing in case prep that makes a difference in accuracy are clean primer pockets.
rich.tullo- Posts : 2006
Join date : 2015-03-27
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