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Post by Magload 11/18/2017, 3:00 pm

I have never lubed lead bullets and after reading a earlier post on leading I now have some.  I know I can lube cast, what about swaged?  I guess I dump a couple hundred in a plastic jug like a one pound powder bottle and roll it around some.  Then dump them on a cookie sheet to dry.  Do they need to be base down or just dumped on so I don't touch them?  Let them dry over night.  Could I dry them in my brass dryer, old food dehydrator, or would that be to hot?   Don
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Post by fc60 11/18/2017, 3:30 pm

Greetings,

I tumble lube quite often.

Get a used cookie sheet from Goodwill or thrift store.

Lay a piece of paper towel on the tray covered with a sheet of wax paper.

Take a one quart ZipLoc freezer bag and place a handful of bullets in the bag. Squirt in some lube and zip the bag shut.

Now give the bullets and bag a gentle massage to fully coat everything.

Empty the lubed bullets onto the tray with wax paper.

Turn the bag inside out and wear it like a glove. Now spread the bullets around to dry.

After about 12 hours, move the bullets around to expose areas that did not dry.

Usually, they are fully dry and ready to use in 24 hours.

Cheers,

Dave
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Post by Multiracer 11/18/2017, 3:34 pm

Yea, what he said. I now coat everything with this stuff. Sit down and do a thousand, let them dry then back into the box or a labeled plastic container. Ready when you want to load.

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Post by Magload 11/18/2017, 4:32 pm

Great thanks to both of you.  Don
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Post by 243winxb 11/18/2017, 4:46 pm

Alox builds up in the seating die. May change COL.  

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Best results in applying liquid alox are when the alox is heated before applying, or thinned with paint thinner. This makes it flow more easily, and results in a more even coat. One technique is to boil water and pour it into a coffee mug, and then drop the bottle of liquid alox into the mug for about five minutes. 

Place your freshly cast bullets into something about the size of a Cool Whip bowl and drop a few drops of liquid Alox on the bullets. Mix the bullets around until they are all coated. Lay the freshly coated bullets on some wax paper to dry. Liquid alox will usually dry enough overnight to reload the next day, depending upon the humidity. Tacky bullets can be dusted with powdered graphite.

If you subscribe to the "more is better" line of thought, your coated bullets may never dry. Don't go for a "golden" color but rather just a light varnish. If you discover that your bullets are sticky the next day, you can get by with using a little less the next time. Keep reducing until the "stickiness" is gone by the next day.

If you are sizing your cast bullets, it is necessary to lube them first. Because the sizer will remove some of the surface of a larger diameter bullet, you may need to re-lubricate the bullets after they have been sized.

Many of our bullets are of the "TL" or Tumble Lube design. These bullets have many shallow grooves that are perfect for allowing Liquid Alox to adhere to a great amount of surface. It has been reported that the accuracy of these bullets is high.

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Post by Multiracer 11/18/2017, 5:55 pm

Any lube builds up in all of our machines,
You will find that Naptha is good thinning agent, you will always thin before use. Paint thinner is mineral spirits and has too many tail solvents and odors.
Try a batch and you will find what works for you and your loader.
The net result we are after is our barrells will be happier, and you can spend more time sending lead downrange as opposed to scrubbing lead.

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Post by jglenn21 11/18/2017, 6:09 pm

I use one of those smallish square plastic jars that  peanuts or candy comes in. Easily hold 500 bullets and lasts forever.. BTW  the 10.in the formula is odorless mineral spirits..  if the mix gets thick just add heat or some more mineral spirits.

I get my mix from white label lubes


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Post by Magload 11/18/2017, 6:28 pm

I might have this wrong and right me if i am, but isn't Alox only 45% of 45/45/10 and Johnson's Wax the other 45% with mineral spirits being 10% and the thinner in the mix.  when I ordered this from White label I could have selected ALOX.  This is their new 45/45/10 and is supposed to dry faster. Don
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Post by jglenn21 11/18/2017, 6:39 pm

you have the right formula

White label sells both straight Alox and the 45-45-10.



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Post by Chris Miceli 11/18/2017, 6:50 pm

fc60 wrote:Greetings,

I tumble lube quite often.

Get a used cookie sheet from Goodwill or thrift store.

Lay a piece of paper towel on the tray covered with a sheet of wax paper.

Take a one quart ZipLoc freezer bag and place a handful of bullets in the bag. Squirt in some lube and zip the bag shut.

Now give the bullets and bag a gentle massage to fully coat everything.

Empty the lubed bullets onto the tray with wax paper.

Turn the bag inside out and wear it like a glove. Now spread the bullets around to dry.

After about 12 hours, move the bullets around to expose areas that did not dry.

Usually, they are fully dry and ready to use in 24 hours.

Cheers,

Dave
This is how i massage lube onto my bullets. In the summer in Virginia bullets dry fast. I have been using White label lube.

Edit: I gas wash my bullet before lubing.


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Post by 243winxb 11/19/2017, 9:16 am

Tumble lube works best  when not sizing bullets.  If sizing, lube  before and after sizing.

For accuracy, i will keep using my Lymam 450, with no  lube  build up in the seating die .
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Post by dronning 11/19/2017, 10:06 am

+1 on the 45/45/10.
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Post by Magload 11/19/2017, 11:44 am

I did my first batch this morning.  A small batch to start with.  I like the high tech coated bullets I get from Berry's and Missouri Bullets but they just don't seam to shoot well at 50yds.  The same with my favorite X Treme plated bullets.  Don
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