N310 load data

I just ordered a Les Baer Premier ii 1.5" guarantee 3.5 trigger pull and I also purchased a lb of N310. Do you guys have a favorite .45 acp load? I'll be using some 185gr and some 200gr bullets.

another LB N 310 user here...

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EASY ANSWER. YOU DIDN'T SAY LEAD OR JACKETED SO HERE'S BOTH. JP
185-200GR LEAD   3.9-4.0 VV310
185GR JHP            4.3-4.5 VV310

JIMPGOV wrote:EASY ANSWER. YOU DIDN'T SAY LEAD OR JACKETED SO HERE'S BOTH. JP
185-200GR LEAD   3.9-4.0 VV310
185GR JHP            4.3-4.5 VV310

Thanks, I'm sorry it would be lead.

Jim,  The reason I linked to all the N 310 threads was because some of us can go lower than that.  I can still get dependable functioning and ok accuracy with 3.55 under 185 Magnus 801 or 3.7 under 200 xtreme plated SWC.   This was the test of the plated offhand 25 yd indoor with the mistakes being me.  Frame mounted dot, 10 lb recoil, 19 lb MS, CCI primers.

IIRC the Marine load was 4.2g with the Nosler 185 HP bullet. They later used 4.5G with the same bullet, then matched one of the loads to the pistol. Some pistols shot one or the other better.

For 200 gr LSWC bullets, 3.8 gr of N310 in my RO wad gun results in consistent 1.5" groups at 50 yards. Let us know how your Lez performs.

Kermit Workman wrote:IIRC the Marine load was 4.2g with the Nosler 185 HP bullet. They later used 4.5G with the same bullet, then matched one of the loads to the pistol. Some pistols shot one or the other better.

The USMC load was 4.1 gr N310.  https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2016/4/07/usmc-match-45-load/

S148 wrote:

Kermit Workman wrote:IIRC the Marine load was 4.2g with the Nosler 185 HP bullet. They later used 4.5G with the same bullet, then matched one of the loads to the pistol. Some pistols shot one or the other better.

The USMC load was 4.1 gr N310.  https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2016/4/07/usmc-match-45-load/

Still a good load

Hello Pat,

I have had great success * with 4.2 grains of VV N310 and the 185 grain Nosler.  One of my go to loads for several different pistols.

   * that's great success in warm weather.  I have found that VV N310 is quite temperature sensitive and when the mercury drops, chamber pressure also drops, my pistols don't cycle and accuracy suffers.  I have no problems with Bullseye, CLAYS, 231, etcetera with the same temperature swings.

Jim

spursnguns wrote:Hello Pat,

I have had great success * with 4.2 grains of VV N310 and the 185 grain Nosler.  One of my go to loads for several different pistols.

   * that's great success in warm weather.  I have found that VV N310 is quite temperature sensitive and when the mercury drops, chamber pressure also drops, my pistols don't cycle and accuracy suffers.  I have no problems with Bullseye, CLAYS, 231, etcetera with the same temperature swings.

Jim

Jim, what's your 231 load on the long line with 185 noslers?

4.1 gr. N310 with a Magnus, Zero or Nosler 185 gr. JHP is considered "the load" for service pistol nowadays.  I run a 12 lb. spring in my service gun and it gets 1" at 25 yd.  YMMV.

Hello daflorc,

The 185 grain Noslers seem to do their best for bullseye when they are driven in the 770 - 785 feet per second range.  When I use 231, I get my best groups (from a variety of pistols) with 4.7 grains (approximately 775 feet per second).  As an aside, my very best load for the 185 grain Nosler is with 4.2 grains of CLAYS (780 feet per second).

Jim

spursnguns wrote:Hello daflorc,

The 185 grain Noslers seem to do their best for bullseye when they are driven in the 770 - 785 feet per second range.  When I use 231, I get my best groups (from a variety of pistols) with 4.7 grains (approximately 775 feet per second).  As an aside, my very best load for the 185 grain Nosler is with 4.2 grains of CLAYS (780 feet per second).

Jim

Thanks - I've been using 4.8 grains, as I notice if my powder drop falters a bit and I get into 4.6 grain territory sometimes my slide won't cycle. I've never tried Clays. Maybe I will...

231 meters well with the right powder measure.  Using something like a Harrell's Precision measure will keep you accurately at your chosen charge.  You won't have much if any fluctuation.

Jim

spursnguns wrote:231 meters well with the right powder measure.  Using something like a Harrell's Precision measure will keep you accurately at your chosen charge.  You won't have much if any fluctuation.

Jim

That's quite an expensive measure - think it'll work on a Dillon 650? I should note I've gotten far less fluctuation in the last couple weeks since I put a vibrator in the powder hopper.

That just sounds wrong, daflorc!

Jim

spursnguns wrote:That just sounds wrong, daflorc!

Jim

Its just a little silver bullet on a cord- but it works better than taping an aquarium pump to the hopper, lol. And it has different speed settings 

spursnguns wrote:Hello Pat,

I have had great success * with 4.2 grains of VV N310 and the 185 grain Nosler.  One of my go to loads for several different pistols.

   * that's great success in warm weather.  I have found that VV N310 is quite temperature sensitive and when the mercury drops, chamber pressure also drops, my pistols don't cycle and accuracy suffers.  I have no problems with Bullseye, CLAYS, 231, etcetera with the same temperature swings.

Jim

Agreed.  Sickeningly light load in my service pistol.  Seems to shoot decent even with 4.2 gr  
10 shot 50 yard test target that came with my ball....errrrr......JHP EIC gun.

that picture shows a LR primer?? since they are  .008" taller by specification I wonder how he fit them in the primer pocket. That should give some people fits trying to duplicate. I'll just continue to use LP primers.

robert84010 wrote:that picture shows a LR primer?? since they are  .008" taller by specification I wonder how he fit them in the primer pocket. That should give some people fits trying to duplicate. I'll just continue to use LP primers.

I just use Federal LPP.  Not sure I want to use LRP for the reason mentioned.

I was hoping he just wrote it down wrong. I wish I was selling primer pocket cutters....

It may be that he was noting that the Federal brass was LARGE primers as opposed to small primers in some Federal brass.(not Large Rifle) There is no reason to use Large Rifle primers.

That is a great point. I hope there was a simple explanation.

Ok so I am new to this. Not sure what it means when you give a crimp measurement. Can you explain what that means and how you get it. Thanks