Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
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Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
When I first got my M-52, a member of this forum offered to sell me two boxes of this ammo, so I could get to shoot the gun while I was getting ready to reload. Very much appreciated!! I shot one box, and put the other aside for a "rainy day".
Now that I'm starting to reload, while I think I need to improve my reloading, at least I do have ammo to shoot. My question to this forum is what is the status of the Winchester ammo? Is it permanently discontinued, or is it available "every so often", or ???
Now that I'm starting to reload, while I think I need to improve my reloading, at least I do have ammo to shoot. My question to this forum is what is the status of the Winchester ammo? Is it permanently discontinued, or is it available "every so often", or ???
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
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Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
Hello mikemyers,
What I "know"....Remington has discontinued their wad cutter ammunition. Winchester was still being sold, by several vendors, in December, 2017. Perhaps online vendors were selling their old stock?
By the way, great ammunition (my guns shot it better than Remington's).
Jim
What I "know"....Remington has discontinued their wad cutter ammunition. Winchester was still being sold, by several vendors, in December, 2017. Perhaps online vendors were selling their old stock?
By the way, great ammunition (my guns shot it better than Remington's).
Jim
spursnguns- Posts : 611
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Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
Have you tried the Federal Gold Medal Match?
JayhawkNavy02- Posts : 821
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Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
Nope, never heard of it. I'm mostly asking for a relative of mine, who wants to buy some. For me, one way or another, I will learn how to make my own.
I did look it up - thanks - and found it here:
https://www.targetsportsusa.com/federal-gold-medal-38-special-ammo-148-grain-match-wadcutter-gm38a-p-1187.aspx
Have you tried it in a M-52, or know of someone who has?
I did look it up - thanks - and found it here:
https://www.targetsportsusa.com/federal-gold-medal-38-special-ammo-148-grain-match-wadcutter-gm38a-p-1187.aspx
Have you tried it in a M-52, or know of someone who has?
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
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Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
I want to say that Federal GMM worked well in The Boss Ladies 52.I've been rolling my own with some old National 148 HBWCs and they've been working well also.-Mike
atrfod- Posts : 58
Join date : 2017-05-19
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Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
The Federal, Winchester and Remington are all about the same. Your gun may like one or the other better. Best place to find this stuff is at gunshows and on line. There are plenty of old PPC shooters selling of their hoards.
Wobbley- Admin
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Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
Here is a spot to look.
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/38-special/-handgun-148grains-target?ikw=wadcutter
or
https://www.midwayusa.com/s?targetLocation=%2F_%2FN-21694%2B4294930241%3FNp%3D2%26Nr%3DAND%2528p_visible%253A1%252Ccustomertypeid%253A1%2529%26Nrpp%3D24%26Ns%3Dp_metric_sales_velocity%257C1%26Ntpc%3D1%26Ntpr%3D1&userItemsPerPage=48&persistedItemsPerPage=0
Or.. How about Winchester? IN STOCK
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/winchester-38-special-ammunition-50-rounds-super-x-lwc-148-grains-020892201361.do?sortby=priceAscend&refType=&from=fn&ecList=7&ecCategory=117340
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/38-special/-handgun-148grains-target?ikw=wadcutter
or
https://www.midwayusa.com/s?targetLocation=%2F_%2FN-21694%2B4294930241%3FNp%3D2%26Nr%3DAND%2528p_visible%253A1%252Ccustomertypeid%253A1%2529%26Nrpp%3D24%26Ns%3Dp_metric_sales_velocity%257C1%26Ntpc%3D1%26Ntpr%3D1&userItemsPerPage=48&persistedItemsPerPage=0
Or.. How about Winchester? IN STOCK
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/winchester-38-special-ammunition-50-rounds-super-x-lwc-148-grains-020892201361.do?sortby=priceAscend&refType=&from=fn&ecList=7&ecCategory=117340
LenV- Posts : 4769
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Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
Mike,
The friend of mine that I have been selling his guns and brass gave me a ammo list that I have yet to deal with online. According to the list he has 700 rounds of the WW and 550 rounds of the Federal. PM me if you have any interest.
Tom Ginovsky
The friend of mine that I have been selling his guns and brass gave me a ammo list that I have yet to deal with online. According to the list he has 700 rounds of the WW and 550 rounds of the Federal. PM me if you have any interest.
Tom Ginovsky
teg2658- Posts : 264
Join date : 2014-05-22
Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
Thanks - I will send you a PM later today - my relative might be interested. As for me, I did some testing this morning - will post the results after I get back from lunch. I need to sort everything out in my mind. Again, thank you!
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
Join date : 2016-07-27
Age : 80
Location : South Florida, and India
Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
I ransom rest tested all the factory 148 hbwc in many ppc revolvers in years past. The most accurate was the Winchester Western that came in 2k round cases. Boy were those cases heavy. Old from the 70-80's. The boxes were 50rds white without plastic or foam trays. Just a half cardboard that held the rds alternating up/down. Factory Star and Remington were next in a dead heat. Occasionally Federal had a good lot.
JIMPGOV- Posts : 657
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Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
Yes, the 70's W-W loads we're great! And Mark III .22 also
james r chapman- Admin
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Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
The Winchester 148 grain 38 special super match is still listed on their website as available.
troystaten- Posts : 824
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Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
Federal Gold Medal had been considered the "gold standard" of factory ammo. I used it in my 52-1 with great success
and used it as a template when I was reloading. It used to be in the $45-$50 range for a box. I just found this for your
consideration.
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/federal-premium-gold-medal-38-special-148-grain-lead-wadcutter-match-50-rounds?a=1593141
and used it as a template when I was reloading. It used to be in the $45-$50 range for a box. I just found this for your
consideration.
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/federal-premium-gold-medal-38-special-148-grain-lead-wadcutter-match-50-rounds?a=1593141
mbmshooter- Posts : 250
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Location : Prescott, Arizona
Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
That price from sportsmansguide is a great deal.
troystaten- Posts : 824
Join date : 2012-04-19
Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
I believe the newer Federal GM match .38 uses the Speer HBWC
which is a sister company as well as Alliant.
some clues here...
which is a sister company as well as Alliant.
some clues here...
james r chapman- Admin
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Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
That Federal Gold Medal ammo is available from Target Sports USA for $400/1000:
https://www.targetsportsusa.com/federal-gold-medal-38-special-ammo-148-grain-match-wadcutter-gm38a-p-1187.aspx
With the "Prime Ammo" membership it is $367.82 delivered.
https://www.targetsportsusa.com/federal-gold-medal-38-special-ammo-148-grain-match-wadcutter-gm38a-p-1187.aspx
With the "Prime Ammo" membership it is $367.82 delivered.
Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
A relative isn't sure if it will work in a Model 52. From reading this thread, I'm pretty sure it will. Any advice?
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
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Re: Is Winchester 38 Special 148 grain Super Match gone for good, or temporarily?
Only way to be sure is to try it. 100 rounds should tell.
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