Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
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Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
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Well, in the never ending search for an ultradot replacement, I can Eleminate the vortex crossfire. Yes, Im left handed, but my jerk isn't quite this bad
Well, in the never ending search for an ultradot replacement, I can Eleminate the vortex crossfire. Yes, Im left handed, but my jerk isn't quite this bad
10sandxs- Posts : 972
Join date : 2016-01-29
Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
10sandxs wrote:Well, in the never ending search for an ultradot replacement, I can Eleminate the vortex crossfire. Yes, Im left handed, but my jerk isn't quite this bad
I am curious, how does a dot sight cause this problem? Does it move somehow?
gregbenner- Posts : 738
Join date : 2016-10-29
Location : San Diego area
Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
I'm guessing the windage & elevation adjusts crap out and the dot just wanders around.
zanemoseley- Posts : 2688
Join date : 2015-07-11
Location : Cookeville, TN
Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
LenV, I just checked - I can add it to my shopping cart, so it's apparently still available.LenV wrote:Mike, It is 724.00 with the mount but they are "sold out". I wonder what they go for on the used market?
Rob, Zero problems with my Vortex Crossfire but have it mounted on a 52 so not much recoil.
Have S-30 on a wad gun (45). Works like a champ after 2 years.
Read the article on the Aimpoint sights at: https://bigtexoutdoors.com/blogs/news/88201863-differences-between-aimpoint-micro-sights
You will find the text "Save 15% THESE SIGHTS with the code Aimpoint Article.
If you're still having trouble, call Ike Stephens at BigtexOutdoors, who is the person who helped me.
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
Join date : 2016-07-26
Age : 80
Location : South Florida, and India
Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
Mike. Sorry, not true . You asked what it would cost with the standard mount. I checked. It is 724.00. Only about 25.00 more then without. Worth getting... But they are sold out (the mount). I am not having trouble. I have zero desire to spend 600.00 on a dot that just goes down in value. I like Aimpoints don't get me wrong. I now have 6 of them and have a little less then 750.00 into all 6. I kind of wonder why I bought the 2000 but 3000, 7000 and 9000 are super nice. Just shot State matches (Oregon) and had one of each in the match. Call me a cheapskate.
LenV- Posts : 4771
Join date : 2014-01-24
Age : 74
Location : Oregon
Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
Oh, you mean the mount is sold out? I didn't realize what you meant. There is a 15% discount on the sights. I never even checked on the mount, as I have a spare, since I replaced the stock mount with a Kodiak mount on my Salyer.
Yep, with the discount, it's $600 or so. It's a lot more than other sights, but it's $100 less than what I was going to have to spend with MidwayUSA.
I only know what I see, and have only used four tube-style sights, ADCO, Tasco, Matcdot II, and Aimpoint H-1. As a photographer, I prefer the image through the Aimpoint, and as a 74-year old dude who isn't as strong as he'd like to be, I greatly prefer the reduction in weight with the Micro Sights.
If you did get one, for a wad gun, plan on $100 more for the Kodiak machined steel mount from KC.
....you've got a very nice collection!!!!
Yep, with the discount, it's $600 or so. It's a lot more than other sights, but it's $100 less than what I was going to have to spend with MidwayUSA.
I only know what I see, and have only used four tube-style sights, ADCO, Tasco, Matcdot II, and Aimpoint H-1. As a photographer, I prefer the image through the Aimpoint, and as a 74-year old dude who isn't as strong as he'd like to be, I greatly prefer the reduction in weight with the Micro Sights.
If you did get one, for a wad gun, plan on $100 more for the Kodiak machined steel mount from KC.
....you've got a very nice collection!!!!
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
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Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
Allgoodhits wrote:… anyone have an user opinion on the UltraDot HD micro ?
no es bueno
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Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
If I remember right, I was told it is off-set to the side. I never found anything good about it, so I stopped searching.
mikemyers- Posts : 4236
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Age : 80
Location : South Florida, and India
Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
a friend said that you could see my shots shifting down as I was shooting the strings. each shot went farther down and right the equivalent of a click or two... the elevation and windage adjustments are slipping.gregbenner wrote:10sandxs wrote:Well, in the never ending search for an ultradot replacement, I can Eleminate the vortex crossfire. Yes, Im left handed, but my jerk isn't quite this bad
I am curious, how does a dot sight cause this problem? Does it move somehow?
10sandxs- Posts : 972
Join date : 2016-01-29
Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
Was it in the vortex base or the kodiak base???
paul noles- Posts : 36
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Age : 58
Location : St charles mo
Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
vortexpaul noles wrote:Was it in the vortex base or the kodiak base???
10sandxs- Posts : 972
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Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
Thanks....i just aquired 1 but gonna use the kodiak ....i think that will help....good luck in your search ..its been on going for me.. I even purchased two 9000 s c and I'm not overly happy with them
paul noles- Posts : 36
Join date : 2011-06-12
Age : 58
Location : St charles mo
Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
My next option is to go frame mount to minimize recoil impact to the sight. I have a design, just need to find the time to make it and install a dot on it... I'm going to turn the dot 90 degrees and remove the scope rail from the slide to enable a lower bore to dot axis. on my next build, I'm going to flat top the slide to get it even lower, but that is probably this winter's project...paul noles wrote:Thanks....i just aquired 1 but gonna use the kodiak ....i think that will help....good luck in your search ..its been on going for me.. I even purchased two 9000 s c and I'm not overly happy with them
10sandxs- Posts : 972
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Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
I think i may know you ....i live in st charles mo ....have we shot together somewhere
paul noles- Posts : 36
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Age : 58
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Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
I don't think so... I live in West Fargo ND. I've shot Perry several times, but none recently...paul noles wrote:I think i may know you ....i live in st charles mo ....have we shot together somewhere
10sandxs- Posts : 972
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Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
I put a Sightron 30mm on a frame mounted 45 I built. I liked it better than the UD 30 mm. It didn’t have negative magnification. I personally only use Aimpoint Micro and 9000SC on my pistols. 2 moa only and have no issues with the fit being not bright enough or distorted.
Jon
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Jon Eulette- Posts : 4399
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Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
Good to hear jim.JKR wrote:Rob,
After an UltraDot crash last year at Perry, I bought a Sightron S30-5. I seriously like this sight and recently bought another for my 22. So far I have a bit over two thousand rounds on the first one on my slide mounted 45. So far, so good!
They're advertised as a 5 minute dot but that's wrong. The dot is half the size of the UD 4 minute dot. The adjustments are crisp and there's no negative magnification. I'm sure other shooters have tried them but I've not heard much except from Len V who's always a good source to check with about dot sights.
The Springfield you re barreled for me is performing fabulously! I'll be shooting it at Perry with the Sightron.
Jim
10sandxs- Posts : 972
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Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
What about Bausch & Lomb 2x?
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Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Aimpoint doesn't make a 4 MOA dot any more. Just 2 MOA across the board. That change was done the beginning of the year.
Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
Thank you KC for the heads up on the 4MOA at Perry, I picked up 2 Just waiting until you get the Kodiak for the Pardini back in stock.
Thanks
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Zippy- Posts : 52
Join date : 2014-06-27
Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
My crossfire died on the range yesterday. I had it slide mounted on a 9mm and the light/dot quit. I took it apart and did an autopsy. The batterie has 6 little clips that hold it in place and make the ground contact. Most red dots also have a contact point with the screw cap to insure ground. The Vortex has a rubber pad there instead. The 6 clips had lost any tension they might of had and with no contact to the cap it just quit. Aluminum foil to the rescue. I placed a little behind two clips and also made a cut out in the foam for a little ball to go in the cap. The light/dot works again. I am going to look around for a small spring to go where I put the ball in the cap so vibration doesn't loosen it up again.
Len
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LenV- Posts : 4771
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Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
I've had 2 of them, one was a replacement for the first which would not hold zero after about 1000 rounds on my S&W 986 9mm. The replacement did the same thing. I requested the Matchdot to replace the second Micro. I did not like the optics after about 200 rounds so I mounted a Burris 2x scope which gets better results off the bench, which is where all my shooting takes place. I'll probably sell the Matchdot. FWIW.Allgoodhits wrote:… anyone have an user opinion on the UltraDot HD micro ?
Bigtrout- Posts : 417
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Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
kc.crawford.7 wrote:Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Aimpoint doesn't make a 4 MOA dot any more. Just 2 MOA across the board. That change was done the beginning of the year.
I am glad I got my 4 dot units.
Jack H- Posts : 2700
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Re: Another one bites the dust, vortex crossfire
Or just take advantage of their stellar warranty and get a new one. I personally think Vortex could "up" their red dot game, they focus too much on the tacticool crowd. I'm a fan of their scopes in general.LenV wrote:My crossfire died on the range yesterday. I had it slide mounted on a 9mm and the light/dot quit. I took it apart and did an autopsy. The batterie has 6 little clips that hold it in place and make the ground contact. Most red dots also have a contact point with the screw cap to insure ground. The Vortex has a rubber pad there instead. The 6 clips had lost any tension they might of had and with no contact to the cap it just quit. Aluminum foil to the rescue. I placed a little behind two clips and also made a cut out in the foam for a little ball to go in the cap. The light/dot works again. I am going to look around for a small spring to go where I put the ball in the cap so vibration doesn't loosen it up again.
Len
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