160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
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ric1911a1
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160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
Colt Government model, tapered rib, Ultradot 30mm.
19lb mainspring,10 lb recoil spring, 6 lb magazine spring, standard firing pin spring.
I have been trying to work a decent load up for these new light bullets, no ransom testing just off my inexperienced hand and paying attention to the slide cycle.
Accuracy seems off and ejection seems weak with 4.1 WST, accuracy gets better as you go up but seems real good and cycle is good at a high of 4.8 WST.
tested 4.1 to 4.8 30 rounds each.
The recoil did not seem to increase as the powder volume went up ?
Anyone else fooled with these little 160 G button type SWC ? 4,8G seems a bit high ?
19lb mainspring,10 lb recoil spring, 6 lb magazine spring, standard firing pin spring.
I have been trying to work a decent load up for these new light bullets, no ransom testing just off my inexperienced hand and paying attention to the slide cycle.
Accuracy seems off and ejection seems weak with 4.1 WST, accuracy gets better as you go up but seems real good and cycle is good at a high of 4.8 WST.
tested 4.1 to 4.8 30 rounds each.
The recoil did not seem to increase as the powder volume went up ?
Anyone else fooled with these little 160 G button type SWC ? 4,8G seems a bit high ?
Multiracer- Posts : 975
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
I haven't tried that bullet but I have thought about trying the IDP #10 from Missouri Bullet Company. It's a 155 grain cast .452 SWC with Hi-Tek coating.
Orpanaut- Posts : 187
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
With the Dardas 160 grain cast, 4.4 of WST works well in my guns.
ric1911a1- Posts : 338
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
4.3 in mine.ric1911a1 wrote:With the Dardas 160 grain cast, 4.4 of WST works well in my guns.
james r chapman- Admin
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
ric1911a1 wrote:With the Dardas 160 grain cast, 4.4 of WST works well in my guns.
Rail, scope, spring ?
Multiracer- Posts : 975
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
james r chapman wrote:4.3 in mine.ric1911a1 wrote:With the Dardas 160 grain cast, 4.4 of WST works well in my guns.
Rail, scope, spring ?
Multiracer- Posts : 975
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
Clark Heavy optic, matchdot II,
I think it's a 10#.
looking at my data, it's 4.37, so call it 4.4 WST
I'll try and get a velocity tomorrow, but, they move out pretty fast.
couldn't get anything lower to cycle my guns.
I think it's a 10#.
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looking at my data, it's 4.37, so call it 4.4 WST
I'll try and get a velocity tomorrow, but, they move out pretty fast.
couldn't get anything lower to cycle my guns.
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
james r chapman wrote:Clark Heavy optic, matchdot II,
I think it's a 10#.![]()
looking at my data, it's 4.37, so call it 4.4 WST
I'll try and get a velocity tomorrow, but, they move out pretty fast.
couldn't get anything lower to cycle my guns.
That is the problem I am having. Thank you.
Multiracer- Posts : 975
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
4.3 WST. I use a 9lb spring
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orpheoet- Posts : 1054
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
4.3 of BE with a .469 crimp.
Curtis wadgun, Marvel Rib, 1 inch Ultradot
Curtis wadgun, Marvel Rib, 1 inch Ultradot
jmdavis- Posts : 1409
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
4.3 452AA ![Basketball](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_basketball.gif)
I can’t count how many thousands of Xs I’ve shot with that load. MANY.
![Basketball](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_basketball.gif)
I can’t count how many thousands of Xs I’ve shot with that load. MANY.
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
Isn't WST the "replacement" for 452 AA?john bickar wrote:4.3 452AA
I can’t count how many thousands of Xs I’ve shot with that load. MANY.
orpheoet- Posts : 1054
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
I’ll try to answer that question when I run out of 452AA. I have many thousands of Xs left.orpheoet wrote:Isn't WST the "replacement" for 452 AA?john bickar wrote:4.3 452AA
I can’t count how many thousands of Xs I’ve shot with that load. MANY.
Stay tuned.
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
pretty much yesorpheoet wrote:Isn't WST the "replacement" for 452 AA?john bickar wrote:4.3 452AA
I can’t count how many thousands of Xs I’ve shot with that load. MANY.
Chris Miceli- Posts : 2715
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
Clark slide mount, Aimpoint H-1, 10 pound spring (I think).Multiracer wrote:ric1911a1 wrote:With the Dardas 160 grain cast, 4.4 of WST works well in my guns.
Rail, scope, spring ?
ric1911a1- Posts : 338
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
Do the 160 grain bullets shoot any higher or lower than the 185 grain bullets at 25 yards?
Orpanaut- Posts : 187
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
I'll let you know in a couple hours.going to the range.
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
Ok. 160 DARDAS cast swc,
Avg 796 fps with 4.4 wst, .925 shoulder to base dimensions . probably a .463-.465 crimp
.Magnus #811 3.7 Bullseye .920 s.t.b dimensions same crimp, avg fps.
Same POI at 25 yards.
Avg 796 fps with 4.4 wst, .925 shoulder to base dimensions . probably a .463-.465 crimp
.Magnus #811 3.7 Bullseye .920 s.t.b dimensions same crimp, avg fps.
Same POI at 25 yards.
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
Did you notice a reduction in felt recoil with the 160 grain bullets?
Orpanaut- Posts : 187
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
With the same load there can be a reduction in recoil. But with 4.3 for the 160 and 3.7 or more for the 185, I don't notice less recoil. I noticed better groups in slow fire.
jmdavis- Posts : 1409
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
Chris Miceli wrote:pretty much yesorpheoet wrote:Isn't WST the "replacement" for 452 AA?john bickar wrote:4.3 452AA
I can’t count how many thousands of Xs I’ve shot with that load. MANY.
It is the replacement for 452AA but it is not interchangeable. As others using WST have noted 4.4 seems to work but your gun may need re-springing.
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
john bickar wrote:4.3 452AA
I can’t count how many thousands of Xs I’ve shot with that load. MANY.
Using the 160 cast SWC ?
Multiracer- Posts : 975
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
james r chapman wrote:Ok. 160 DARDAS cast swc,
Avg 796 fps with 4.4 wst, .925 shoulder to base dimensions . probably a .463-.465 crimp
.Magnus #811 3.7 Bullseye .920 s.t.b dimensions same crimp, avg fps.
Same POI at 25 yards.
James, is that crimp dimension correct ?
Multiracer- Posts : 975
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
Multiracer wrote:john bickar wrote:4.3 452AA
I can’t count how many thousands of Xs I’ve shot with that load. MANY.
Using the 160 cast SWC ?
You bet.
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Re: 160 Grain SWC cast lead bullet
I also noticed Motorcycle Dan's 160 SWC load of 4.3 Bullseye.
at some point I've got to clear my head, start using
what the Masters are finding success with....
at some point I've got to clear my head, start using
what the Masters are finding success with....
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